Solaris Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 17. Sue Hawk Survivor: Borneo 3rd Place Survivor: All-Stars 13th place Average: 13.33 RANKINGS: Alex - 3/20 Andrelliott - 10/20 Public - 11/20 Amanda - 13/20 Hayden - 13/20 Zoey - 15/20 JC - 16/20 Steven - 19/20 Andy - 20/20 ALEX Quote Sue Hawk I think I've made my thoughts pretty clear on Sue for a long time now. She is the single most compelling character in Survivor history. Sue was so raw and real and I really connected with her and fell in love with her. She was just a regular joe truck driver who ended up on the adventure of a lifetime that ended in her creating the single most iconic speech...in the history of reality television I'll say. I fell in love with Sue from the first moment we met her where she yelled at Rich to stop being lazy and demanding "ACTION!" from him. No one knew what they were getting into when they signed up for Survivor, including production. It very easily could've been a bunch of people becoming friends and starting a society together. Luckily you have a no-nonsense truck driver out there who rarely shows her vulnerable side and we got the drama we needed. The most notable thing about Sue is her relationship with Kelly, which is possibly the most interesting and complex relationship in Survivor history. Sue's obviously not much of a girly girl and doesn't have many female friends. She joined the girls alliance early on, but pretty much reveled in backstabbing it in favor of her alliance with Rich, Rudy, and Kelly. Sue and Kelly got real close, especially as Kelly lost Stacey and had no one else to hang out with. Sue's confessional where she cried about how close she and Kelly are and how she hasn't had a sister like this since losing her best friend 20 years ago and that she won't f*ck her . One of the most heartwrenching confessionals ever, especially knowing how their relationship ends. Sue and Kelly's fight is super shocking and intense because we haven't really seen anything like that on Survivor before. Sue says she wants to vote Kelly out at this point, but I've always wondered if she actually would have. She never could because of Kelly's immunity streak, but I wonder if Sue would've had the heart to do it. She always had her eyes on the prize and she was so mad with Kelly I think she might've. Instead of Sue being able to backstab Kelly though, Kelly flips on her at the final four and sends a very bitter Sue to jury to give us this There's nothing I could say about that except ICONIC. I love Sue on her own as well. As a person and as a gamer. I frequently find myself returning to Sue's answer about alliances at tribal councils which, dare I say, is a speech I might almost prefer to snakes and rats. "We're adults, this is a game. But the game also reflects a lot on real life and you always bring up this alliance thing. Well, America is run on alliance. The minute somebody gives money to the president for his campaign, as a lobbyist, that's an alliance. Don't tell me he doesn't think he doesn't owe him anything! Cause he does! They helped put him where he's at. Same thing goes when people join a church and they're not religious, but they join the church because they want to make connections for, they're an insurance agent and they want to sell more insurance in town, or they're a real estate agent and they want to sell real estate, and they want to meet up with people! So there is gonna be alliance. Don't tell me there ain't alliance!" Honestly I think that is such a poignant way to describe how alliances were created in Survivor and deemed morally okay. It's nothing different than how people act in their everyday life. If Survivor is a microcosm of society, alliances were gonna happen. Sue's intelligence is extremely underrated since she's such a character. She helped create these alliances and she defended them well. Sue is as much of an innovator on the show as Richard is. And Sue's reputation isn't destroyed from arrests and All-Stars and whatnot. Which I guess brings me to her time on All-Stars. I am obviously completely #TeamSue. The way Richard violated her is heartbreaking and completely inexcusable. I will not judge or read into her motivations because she went through something traumatic. Up to that point I was really enjoying her though! She wasn't as loud and boisterous as in Borneo, but I was enjoying her feud with Big Tom. I also enjoyed Sue randomly beasting challenges despite being on of the oldest women there. Sue is an icon, a legend, and an innovator of the show. I'm glad she made it to the end of the game here. ANDRELLIOTT Quote SUE HAWK Definitely an icon of the game, but I can't say I really have strong opinions on her. Snakes and Rats is still the GOAT of final tribal council speeches, though. PUBLIC Quote Sue is someone I expected to do well this time. Certain rankers weren't part of the game to go after them. Looked like Alex put some work into getting into her this far. I ranked Sue 18th, I like her in the context of old school and no doubt she's a legend. She's a unique character, but just not one of my absolute favorites. Public pulled her ranking up though. AMANDA Quote Sue is one of many players who contributed to Borneo being such a great debut season of Survivor. Obviously, her "snakes and rats" tribal council speech is a legendary moment. Truly one of the best FTC speeches ever from a jury member and really set the standard in that regard. I was glad to see her return for all-stars, and it was heartbreaking and awful to see her go out the way she did. Anyway, we'll always have her iconic performance in Borneo and I'm glad she could bring some season 1 representation to this year's top 20. HAYDEN Quote 13.) Susan Hawk Soo Hok was iconic for many reasons. The main two reasons have got to be her “rats and snakes” speech, and her votes for Souna, Derk, Grechen, Jeanne, and Gervis. Tragically, her second season was really bittersweet due to the circumstances surrounding her exit, but I support Sue and hope she’s doing well! JC Quote Susan Hawk - Gosh I vaguely remember her as a strong old lady from the first season who was aligned with Richard Hatch I think. I have not seen the original season in awhile so I can not quite remember how she did, I want to say she made final 4 or something like that, but I might be wrong. Anyways, I really have no connection to her and she is solely just here because I like everyone else better or can remember them more than her. There was definitely no strategic ranking here, Sue just does not stick out in my mind as much as others in this top 20. STEVEN Quote SUE HAWK I don't really have much of an attachment to Sue Hawk, which is why she ranks this low on my rankings. I do recognize her contribution to the show, and her snakes vs. rats speech at the very first Final Tribal Council remains one of the most memorable moments of Reality TV. She was the first to really air her grievances towards the Final 2, and many more future castaways have followed her example throughout the show's run thus far. Sue returned for the All-Star season, but she quit after she was sexually harassed by Richard. She never should have had to go through that, and it's a shame how that all played out. Sorry for ranking Sue low on my list, but hopefully other rankers will give better write-ups. ANDY Quote SUSAN HAWK - I don’t dislike Sue at all, I think she’s obviously an iconic OG from the original season of Survivor and her FTC speech about snakes and rats is golden standard television. I also think her run on All Stars is really sad to watch and she was treated with the worst disrespect by Richard, Jeff, most of the other castaways, and production in general. Sue is the original Survivor sexual misconduct victim and it’s really sad and infuriating that the show portrayed her to be a messy wreck when really she should have been treated with dignity and respect, and Rich should have been thrown out of the game or reprimanded in some way…..anyways I digress, overall Sue is just not one of my favorites or someone I consider to be a personal top tier Survivor character. I would have cut her if some of my allies didn’t stan her but I’m not mad at her being in the top 20 either. I just think she’s my least favorite left out of the top 20. *shrugs* @Alex95 @*Amanda @sublymonal @Elliott @#jeah @hayden98 @JC @Steven_ @Zoey Edited September 30, 2020 by Solaris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alex95 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Everyone can choke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Alex95 said: Everyone can choke She still made our Top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#jeah Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Oops I thought she would have placed higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Amanda Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Alex 1. 2. 3. Sue Hawk 4. Sean Rector 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. Ian Rosenberger 18. 19. 20. Yul Kwon Amanda 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. Sue Hawk 14. 15. 16. 17. Ian Rosenberger 18. Yul Kwon 19. 20. Sean Rector Andrelliott 1. 2. Ian Rosenberger 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Yul Kwon 10. Sue Hawk 11. 12. Sean Rector 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Andy 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Sean Rector 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. Yul Kwon 18. 19. Ian Rosenberger 20. Sue Hawk Hayden 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. Sue Hawk 14. 15. Sean Rector 16. 17. 18. 19. Yul Kwon 20. Ian Rosenberger JC 1. 2. Yul Kwon 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. Ian Rosenberger 8. Sean Rector 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. Sue Hawk 17. 18. 19. 20, Public 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Yul Kwon 10. 11. Sue Hawk 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. Sean Rector 19. 20. Ian Rosenberger Steven 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. Yul Kwon 15. 16. 17. Sean Rector 18. Ian Rosenberger 19. Sue Hawk 20. Zoey 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Ian Rosenberger 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. Yul Kwon 15. Sue Hawk 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Sean Rector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 I have one more in me tonight. I am going to start working on #16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex95 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 A storyarc! Your faves could never! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex95 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, #jeah said: Oops I thought she would have placed higher You would've had to place her above last f*cking place for that to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#jeah Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alex95 said: You would've had to place her above last f*cking place for that to happen I didn’t cut her in the final round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeee Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 @Alex95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeee Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 The way Sue Hawk deserved better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeee Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Imagine the person that single-handedly made Survivor a show ranking 17th? The horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deeee said: Imagine the person that single-handedly made Survivor a show ranking 17th? The horror. She is an icon, but there are many icons left in this in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 That being said I have #16 written and ready to be posted. Any predictions on who's coming next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeee Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Solaris said: She is an icon, but there are many icons left in this in my opinion. I'm not saying the opposite, but just feel like Sue Hawk cemented what the show would become. IDK. Her storytelling in Borneo is still stronger than just about anything I have seen on this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Deeee said: Imagine the person that single-handedly made Survivor a show ranking 17th? The horror. Now sis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeee Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Elliott said: Now sis Sue and Kelly are the reasons why Survivor became a hit. Easily. Richard too, but he sucks as a human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Amanda Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) I like Sue, but she's in a Top 20 with so many of my favorites that she ended up towards the middle of my ranking.. Edited September 30, 2020 by *Amanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#jeah Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Solaris said: That being said I have #16 written and ready to be posted. Any predictions on who's coming next? Kim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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