bswanson Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 6:43 PM, sneaky said: I'm not the most scientifically literate person which is my fault but I got the vaccine because I was led to believe that there was a 90-95 percent I would not catch covid. I thought good because i dont want to pass it to someone more vulnerable. Now they're saying it doesnt stop you from getting it but just lessens the symptoms. I feel like there was no point now. I dont care if I get it, I will probably be fine and if not its my time. My whole point was to stop the spread and it looks like it doesnt do that well you are right it doesnt stop it completey but if you didnt en upĀ get it you may be fine yourself, but not knowing could pass it onĀ to somone that is higher risk. yes there are breakthrough cases for fully vaxed people but the differnce is the vaccine will likey keep you out of the hosptial and alive even if you test postivie . saw a story where some Florida radio host who refused the vax got it and died, he would most lieky be alive now if he just would have gotten it. i get its everyones choice but if the choice is getting somehing that will most likely keep you alvie vs the risk of dying, i'm going to take he thing that will keep me alive. but thats just me, im not telling others what to do, if they wanna take the risk then thats their choice.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterflyEffect Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Drew said: The border is open for vaccinated Americans. I can't wait to visit for the first time as an adult!Ā Welcome back to the great white north! ------- Received my second shot yesterday. Other than being a little tired I'm feeling pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, ButterflyEffect said: Welcome back to the great white north! ------- Received my second shot yesterday. Other than being a little tired I'm feeling pretty good. All my relatives are from Nova Scotia pretty much. I want to go someplace a little more ...exciting and lively.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterflyEffect Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Drew said: All my relatives are from Nova Scotia pretty much. I want to go someplace a little more ...exciting and lively.Ā Halifax is a pretty nice city, albeit it's definitely a lot less lively than places like Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver. Unless your family is in rural NS, then all I can say is good luck lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyFrankie Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Well i got my 2 shots. Ā All I got was a sore arm, other than that, I was fineĀ and I got the Pfizer one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Pressuring Canada into reopening its border to Americans while keeping its own closed to Canadians is like the most American thing ever lol Ā Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamAudra Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) It doesnāt appear as though itās going away any timeĀ soon. We just may have to learn to live with it. Anyone who wishes to lock themselves in their home for years is free to do so. We have vaccines, which are clearly not a perfect solution, but better than nothing, and treatmentsĀ now. Yes, some will die, just like they do from the flu.Ā Edited August 20, 2021 by TeamAudra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bswanson Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 ^ yeah fully vaxed can still get it but most studies show they get less symptoms and less o no time at hospital.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamAudra Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Ā ā...People given both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine were almost six-fold more likely to contract a delta infection and seven-fold more likely to have symptomatic disease than those who recovered...ā Ā ā...āThis analysis demonstrated that natural immunity affords longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization due to the delta variant,ā the researchers said...ā Ā ā...The analysis also showed that protection from an earlier infection wanes with time. The risk of a vaccine-breakthrough delta case was 13-fold higher than the risk of developing a second infection when the original illness occurred during January or February 2021. Thatās significantly more than the risk for people who were ill earlier in the outbreak...ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bswanson Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) yeah that is why they are doing the booster. I got the moderna shot and it seems like at least that one protects against delta pretty well so far. like with nay vaccine it wears off or cant fight a variant, so lets hope the booster shots work.Ā Edited August 28, 2021 by bswanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamAudra Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, bswanson said: yeah that is why they are doing the booster. I got the moderna shot and it seems like at least that one protects against delta pretty well so far. like with nay vaccine it wears off or cant fight a variant, so lets hope the booster shots work.Ā Theyāre doing the booster because the vaccine becomes increasingly ineffectiveĀ over a period ofĀ months. EffectivenessĀ of the booster vs. natural immunityĀ wasnāt part of this study. On that note, now theyāre considering recommending boosters every 5 months!Ā Ā Ā This, and the fact that we are seeing alarming spikes in numerous states with high vaccination rates, is theĀ reason I think we are just going to have to learn to live with it for a long time. Perhaps the vaccinations will become more effective over time.Ā Edited August 28, 2021 by TeamAudra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
season1 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) ... Edited October 2, 2021 by season1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
season1 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Threadreader link Ā Ā [cross-posted to AmPol thread] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyFrankie Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 So the Canada-us border is now opened, everything should go back to where they were. Ā Also I noticed, live audiences are coming back and hugging is allowedĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyFrankie Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Numbers are going back up again. The omicron variant is now floating around, I think Xmas and new yearās will make it worse and I think weāll Ā be lockdown again next yearĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 ^ Yeah, after xmas will be bad, at least for cases. We have to hope the theories about it being milder for most people bear out. I doubt we'll be back in lockdown, cause they're not sending out more cheques. But you never know I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamAudra Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) Minnesota started publishing their breakthrough case data a few weeks ago. Hereās a screenshot, but if you want to see the earlier data, click the link. We havenāt been told the truth by the government and the media. Therefore, a lot of people still think they are bulletproof if they are vaccinated. Ā https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/stats/vbtcounts.xlsx Edited December 19, 2021 by TeamAudra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkshood Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Two great articles regarding the politics of Covid: Ā https://www.aier.org/article/fauci-emails-and-some-alleged-science/ Ā https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/12/20/bombshell-thread-shares-damning-fauci-collins-emails-working-with-media-to-take-down-great-barrington-declaration-and-fringe-scientists-behind-it/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bswanson Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 yes you can still get it fully vaxrd but in not all fof course but most cases like with the new variant so far most recover quicker and have less serious symptoms. most people are still living vs dying like the radio host who was unvaxed that just died weeks ago if he was vaxed he would most lieky be alive today. no one should lose their job if they dont want it, but if the vax makes you recover faster and live ill take it vs being dead.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamAudra Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, bswanson said: yes you can still get it fully vaxrd but in not all fof course but most cases like with the new variant so far most recover quicker and have less serious symptoms. most people are still living vs dying like the radio host who was unvaxed that just died weeks ago if he was vaxed he would most lieky be alive today. no one should lose their job if they dont want it, but if the vax makes you recover faster and live ill take it vs being dead.Ā Just three months ago, Biden called it a āpandemic of the unvaccinated.ā Take a look at the data I posted from Minnesota. Notice the number of āfully vaccinatedā hospitalizations and deaths. The administration has downplayed covid treatments in their push to get everyone vaccinated (letās be honest, some just arenāt going to do it). Meanwhile, we have vaccinated Americans who think they are safe. I know this because I go into their homes every single day. Plus, just look around. Most of them seriously think they are bulletproof, and probably arenāt aware of the different treatment options available should they get a breakthrough illness. This is all a result of political gamesmanship.Ā Ā Take a look at this chart. You donāt need to remind me that the vaccine provides some level of protection. I can clearly see that, but thatās not how it was sold to us.Ā Ā Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bswanson Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) ^ yes I agree too if the other treatments work use them to, anything that helps. i dont know why they dont push those more it would actually make them look better if they push both vaccines and the antibodies and stuff like thatĀ all i meant its better to have some treatment like vax or antibodies than nothing at all.Ā Edited December 20, 2021 by bswanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyFrankie Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Does anyone have the booster shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Ā This clocks with what we're seeing in the pro sports leagues. Because they're tested regularly, many are testing positive with mild symptoms many normal people wouldn't bother getting tested over. Ā 5 hours ago, FunkyFrankie said: Does anyone have the booster shot? Ā No... in BC it has to be six months after your second dose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
season1 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Booster data according to CDC: Ā Source Ā As of Dec. 19, 60,155,573 Americans had received a booster, or 29.5 percent of the country's fully vaccinated population, according to the CDC's data. Ā Here are the states and Washington, D.C., ranked by the percentage of their fully vaccinated residents who have received a booster: Ā Ā Ā 1. Vermont: 44.9 percent 2. Minnesota: 42.6 percent 3. Wisconsin: 40.3 percent 4. Iowa: 39.9 percentĀ 5. Maine: 38.9 percentĀ 6. Michigan: 37.9 percent 7. Montana: 37 percent 8. Colorado: 36.8 percent 9. Ohio: 36.6 percent 10. Rhode Island: 36.5 percent 11. Nebraska: 36.2 percent 12. New Mexico: 36 percent 13. Idaho: 35.8 percent 14. Oregon: 34.4 percent 15. Illinois: 34 percent 15. North Dakota: 34 percentĀ 17. Connecticut: 33.8 percent 18. Massachusetts: 33.5 percent 19. Maryland: 33.3 percentĀ 19. Wyoming: 33.3 percent 21. Washington: 33 percentĀ 22. Kentucky: 32.3 percent 23. Virginia: 32.2 percent 24. Alaska: 32 percent 25. Indiana: 31.6 percent 26. Tennessee: 31.3 percent 27. Delaware: 31.2 percent 28. South Dakota: 31.1 percentĀ 29. Missouri: 30.9 percent 30. Kansas: 30.2 percent 31. New Jersey: 29.7 percentĀ 32. California: 29.2 percentĀ 33. New York: 28.1 percentĀ 34. Florida: 28 percentĀ 35. South Carolina: 28 percent 36. Arkansas: 27.7 percent 37. Louisiana: 27.2 percentĀ 38. Arizona: 27 percentĀ 38. Oklahoma: 27 percent 40. Utah: 26.2 percent 41. Nevada: 25.8 percentĀ 42. Texas: 24.8 percentĀ 43. Mississippi: 24.7 percent 44. Alabama: 24.4 percentĀ 45. Georgia: 24.1 percent 46. District of Columbia: 23.5 percent 47. Pennsylvania: 21.3 percentĀ 48. North Carolina: 18.2 percent 49. West Virginia: 18.1 percentĀ 50. Hawaii: 16.9 percent 51. New Hampshire: 9.8 percent Ā Ā NH has the lowest rate at 9.8% VT has the highest booster rate at 44.9% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamAudra Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 11 hours ago, season1 said: Booster data according to CDC: Ā Source Ā As of Dec. 19, 60,155,573 Americans had received a booster, or 29.5 percent of the country's fully vaccinated population, according to the CDC's data. Ā Here are the states and Washington, D.C., ranked by the percentage of their fully vaccinated residents who have received a booster: Ā Ā Ā Reveal hidden contents Ā Ā Ā Ā 1. Vermont: 44.9 percent 2. Minnesota: 42.6 percent 3. Wisconsin: 40.3 percent 4. Iowa: 39.9 percentĀ 5. Maine: 38.9 percentĀ 6. Michigan: 37.9 percent 7. Montana: 37 percent 8. Colorado: 36.8 percent 9. Ohio: 36.6 percent 10. Rhode Island: 36.5 percent 11. Nebraska: 36.2 percent 12. New Mexico: 36 percent 13. Idaho: 35.8 percent 14. Oregon: 34.4 percent 15. Illinois: 34 percent 15. North Dakota: 34 percentĀ 17. Connecticut: 33.8 percent 18. Massachusetts: 33.5 percent 19. Maryland: 33.3 percentĀ 19. Wyoming: 33.3 percent 21. Washington: 33 percentĀ 22. Kentucky: 32.3 percent 23. Virginia: 32.2 percent 24. Alaska: 32 percent 25. Indiana: 31.6 percent 26. Tennessee: 31.3 percent 27. Delaware: 31.2 percent 28. South Dakota: 31.1 percentĀ 29. Missouri: 30.9 percent 30. Kansas: 30.2 percent 31. New Jersey: 29.7 percentĀ 32. California: 29.2 percentĀ 33. New York: 28.1 percentĀ 34. Florida: 28 percentĀ 35. South Carolina: 28 percent 36. Arkansas: 27.7 percent 37. Louisiana: 27.2 percentĀ 38. Arizona: 27 percentĀ 38. Oklahoma: 27 percent 40. Utah: 26.2 percent 41. Nevada: 25.8 percentĀ 42. Texas: 24.8 percentĀ 43. Mississippi: 24.7 percent 44. Alabama: 24.4 percentĀ 45. Georgia: 24.1 percent 46. District of Columbia: 23.5 percent 47. Pennsylvania: 21.3 percentĀ 48. North Carolina: 18.2 percent 49. West Virginia: 18.1 percentĀ 50. Hawaii: 16.9 percent 51. New Hampshire: 9.8 percent Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā NH has the lowest rate at 9.8% VT has the highest booster rate at 44.9% Thatās an interesting list. My home state of MN is 17th in overall vaccination rate, yet 2nd on that list. Meanwhile, NH is 12th in overall vaccination rate, but last on that list. Something isnāt adding up.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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