eidi Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 In theory, AI and TV have the same American viewers, so why we had an AA woman just winning AI while Toneisha in TV probably ranking in the 3rd at most? Because of Blake's or even Kelly's stans? Because of Team Minivan? Because unlike AI, TV has team and coaches? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holinessss Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 BUY SAM'S SINGLE ON iTUNES!!!! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holinessss Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 also, i think it's mainly the "teams" format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenMae16 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 idk tbh, but yes QUEEN SAM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaKD Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 HTG, I’m less shocked about the fact that she’s an AA Female, than the fact that she has visible neck tattoos. Meanwhile, Lauren Duski was considered subversive because she had a tiny nose ring. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eidi Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, holinessss said: also, i think it's mainly the "teams" format That's what I thought. But even with Team Blake support that she would barely have in AI, an AA woman can't win in the Voice. Sisaundra Lewis, Aliyah Moulden, Kyla Jade, Spensha Baker and Toneisha Harris come to my mind. Edited May 18, 2020 by eidi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holinessss Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, eidi said: That's what I thought. But even with Team Blake support that she would barely have in AI, an AA woman can't win in the Voice. Sisaundra Lewis, Aliyah Moulden, Kyla Jade, Spensha Baker and Toneisha Harris come to my mind. yea, for the voice you need to balance more variables and it has to be perfect - do they want the new coach to win, popularity of coach at that give time, stolen/saved, team quotas, age, genre, etc. Kyla was probably the closest contender, if only she wasn't up against Kelly's first season and even Alicia's prowess as a Coach + Britton's teen boy points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) IMO the vote split between the basic af guys and her backstory gave her the win, it had nothing to do with race. This is why Sam wouldn’t win The Voice, because her memorable personality and backstory wouldn’t have any screentime, so she would be seen by most people as your typical R&B singer, and a big part of the audience wouldn’t be able to connect with her. The Voice lost their chance to give an AA woman the win with Kennedy by making her choose the least popular coach. I would argue Kennedy would have won with Blake or Kelly (in addition to more pimping) Edited May 18, 2020 by Daillon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holinessss Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, Daillon said: This is why Sam wouldn’t win The Voice, because her memorable personality and backstory wouldn’t have any screentime, so she would be seen by most people as your typical R&B singer, and a big part of the audience wouldn’t be able to connect with her. "TyPiCaL r&B sInGeR" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoap Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 lul I'm shocked! A basic boy didn't win American Idol? What's going on there? Didn't watch the season so yeah, that's my comment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holinessss Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, echoap said: lul I'm shocked! A basic boy didn't win American Idol? What's going on there? Didn't watch the season so yeah, that's my comment . the blueprint! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eidi Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 18 hours ago, Daillon said: IMO the vote split between the basic af guys and her backstory gave her the win, it had nothing to do with race. This is why Sam wouldn’t win The Voice, because her memorable personality and backstory wouldn’t have any screentime, so she would be seen by most people as your typical R&B singer, and a big part of the audience wouldn’t be able to connect with her. The Voice lost their chance to give an AA woman the win with Kennedy by making her choose the least popular coach. I would argue Kennedy would have won with Blake or Kelly (in addition to more pimping) Toneisha also has a sad backstory and there are only guys to split the vote so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorWax Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, eidi said: Toneisha also has a sad backstory and there are only guys to split the vote so... Sam is way better than Toneisha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoap Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Does she count as an AA though? I'm just asking because IDF used to have pretty high standards when it comes to racial purity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe14 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, echoap said: Does she count as an AA though? I'm just asking because IDF used to have pretty high standards when it comes to racial purity Uhm...she is very clearly black. Not sure how you can look at her and come up with something different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234567890 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 This may sound stupid but what does AA mean? Alcoholics Anonymous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoap Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, joe14 said: Uhm...she is very clearly black. Not sure how you can look at her and come up with something different. Yeah, pardon me, but I'm a bit confused since Tessanne is also black but she doesn't count as an AA winner. Also, Just Sam's real name is Samantha Diaz and her IG bio says Liberian/Latina so I guess I'm a little bit lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holinessss Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, echoap said: Does she count as an AA though? I'm just asking because IDF used to have pretty high standards when it comes to racial purity 1 minute ago, echoap said: Yeah, pardon me, but I'm a bit confused since Tessanne is also black but she doesn't count as an AA winner. Also, Just Sam's real name is Samantha Diaz and her IG bio says Liberian/Latina so I guess I'm a little bit lost. go back to reddit, damn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eidi Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, echoap said: Yeah, pardon me, but I'm a bit confused since Tessanne is also black but she doesn't count as an AA winner. Also, Just Sam's real name is Samantha Diaz and her IG bio says Liberian/Latina so I guess I'm a little bit lost. Tessanne is clearly mixed race. Even her parents aren't black and she looks like more asian than jamaican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoap Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, holinessss said: go back to reddit, damn I'm just asking, I just wanna know IDF parameters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234567890 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, 1234567890 said: This may sound stupid but what does AA mean? Alcoholics Anonymous? I think I figured it out. AA = African-American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eidi Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, FloorWax said: Sam is way better than Toneisha Both of them happen to not have big range. In Rise up for example although sung beautifully Sam didn't reach the high part. So Toneisha usually does Edited May 19, 2020 by eidi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaKD Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, echoap said: Yeah, pardon me, but I'm a bit confused since Tessanne is also black but she doesn't count as an AA winner. Also, Just Sam's real name is Samantha Diaz and her IG bio says Liberian/Latina so I guess I'm a little bit lost. Liberia is an African country founded by former black slaves who returned to the continent (but not the specific country) of their ancestors’ births. Latino/a is an ethnicity. Some are white, some are black, some are Native American, some are a mix. i don’t care how light-skinned Tessanne is, she considers herself to be a black woman. Edited May 19, 2020 by AngelaKD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoap Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, eidi said: Tessanne is clearly mixed race. Even her parents aren't black and she looks like more asian than jamaican I get it now, as long as the contestant "looks" AA, it's all good. 2 minutes ago, AngelaKD said: Liberia is an African country founded by black slaves who returned to the continent (but not the specific country) of their ancestors’ births. Latino/a is an ethnicity. Some are white, some are black, some are Native American, some are a mix. Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eidi Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, echoap said: I get it now, as long as the contestant "looks" AA, it's all good. Thanks for the info Unfortunately racism only sees the appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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