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I can see the Trump supporters are as delusional as Trump here. Posting a bunch of fake conspiracy theories is pretty pathetic, but Trump knew he could manipulate his voters into this charade.  

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I find it hilarious how Trumpsters (and Republicans in general) are just so used to cheating and bullying their way through life, that they simply can't fathom that 75 million Americans voted against

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Me waiting for this groundbreaking evidence that has been posted about in this thread for well over a month that's going to win a court case and change everything.

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30 minutes ago, Nutterbutter said:

It would be in Georgia's best interest to grab onto that "China and Iran" part to cover their backside. 

 

That's a built in excuse for them, if they have to admit that their election is compromised, and still save face. But it still has to go through the courts, and who knows if the issues would be resolved in time. I think that's why Sidney Powell is the one pursuing these types of claims, while Rudy and company are more focused on 14th Amendment and other constitutional violations in PA with the goal of getting to SCOTUS quickly. 

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47 minutes ago, Nutterbutter said:

I watched this earlier. It's a little dry and full of numbers, but after seeing the second affidavit from cybersecurity think this video explains the anomalies.

 

 

Thanks for bringing this. I'll check it out in the morning

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1 hour ago, Nutterbutter said:


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/georgia-lawsuit-witness-testifies-use-different-paper-counterfeit-ballots-watermark-solid-grey-instead-transparent-100-joe-biden/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

 

WooHoo!  I was wondering, when the watermark ballots, would be discussed

 

Georgia Lawsuit: Witness Testifies About Use of Different Paper For ‘Counterfeit’ Ballots, ‘Watermark Solid Grey Instead of Transparent’ – 100% For Joe Biden

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"Is there ANY CHANCE of SCOTUS overturning any part of this? I just feel like he's acting like he's got this in the bag ... like there's something he knows that we don't know?"        :yes:  

 

SCOTUS, is EXACTLY, where he wanted to take this, for starters. The rest .....  getting close to popcorn time  🙃

 

Leomom on Twitter: "@neal_katyal Please Neal - is there ANY CHANCE of SCOTUS overturning any part of this? I just feel like he’s acting like he’s got this in the bag.... like there’s something he knows that we don’t know. I am still terrified." / Twitter

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34 minutes ago, Drew said:

I'm still waiting to hear about the criticism of Sidney Powell. What makes her reputation awful exactly? 

she's a qanon conspiracy theorist whose beliefs are too crazy to even be associated with trump's legal team's baseless claims that there was widescale voter fraud that prevented trump from winning a second term. what more do you need to know.

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UH - OH , is right    :mrgreen:
 
 
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2 hours ago, FrogLenzen said:

Once again, anyone who says that something different is even possible at the Supreme Court either doesn’t understand what these rulings mean or is deliberately trying to mislead you.

So the Megathread you posted above is trying to mislead us? Or are you referring to yourself? Because it says "The case can still be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court." 

How about the New York Post? Are they not understanding the ruling or are they also trying to mislead us.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/27/trump-campaign-vows-to-appeal-pennsylvania-case-to-supreme-court/

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😬     Delaware Computer Repair Shop Behind Hunter Biden’s Laptop Closes Shop After Receiving Death Threats

 

Thomas Paine on Twitter: "Delaware Computer Repair Shop Behind Hunter Biden’s Laptop Closes Shop After Receiving Death Threats https://t.co/5zNroKZuy2" / Twitter

"No good deed goes unpunished" 

Corruption is rewarded because they can control you. When they have nothing on you they invent it. And the uninformed follow along, but sometimes there's a glitch in the matrics and like you they understand.

 

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19 minutes ago, Nutterbutter said:

So the Megathread you posted above is trying to mislead us? Or are you referring to yourself? Because it says "The case can still be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court." 

How about the New York Post? Are they not understanding the ruling or are they also trying to mislead us.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/27/trump-campaign-vows-to-appeal-pennsylvania-case-to-supreme-court/

Perhaps I was unclear. The case can be appealed. But any ruling by the Supreme Court, if they even decide to hear the case, will not be different. Best case scenario is that the Supreme Court doesn’t flat out deny the appeal and they kick it back to the original lower court, putting the Trump team back to square one. The Supreme Court will not be hearing the merits of the case. No additional evidence is able to be presented. If you’re waiting for a surprise, this is not where it will happen. 

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9 minutes ago, FrogLenzen said:

Perhaps I was unclear. The case can be appealed. But any ruling by the Supreme Court, if they even decide to hear the case, will not be different. Best case scenario is that the Supreme Court doesn’t flat out deny the appeal and they kick it back to the original lower court, putting the Trump team back to square one. The Supreme Court will not be hearing the merits of the case. No additional evidence is able to be presented. If you’re waiting for a surprise, this is not where it will happen. 

"Perhaps I was unclear" no perhaps about it. Are you so sure that what they had in their filling was not all there to start with? Are you sure this judge appointed by Trump wouldn't just expedite this from the lower court for Trump? When it's over it will be over. You can jump up and down then around January 20th, 2021.

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RE PA case brought by Giuliani et al, a quick decision by the 3rd Circuit is preferable to a lengthy deliberation without a decision for weeks. Now, they can go to the Supreme Court to appeal.

 

Meanwhile, the PA Legislature filed a resolution to dispute the 2020 Election results:

 

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THEREFORE, be it RESOLVED that the Pennsylvania House of Representatives—

1. Recognizes substantial irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting, pre-canvassing, and canvassing during the November 3, 2020 election; and

2. Disapproves of the infringement on the General Assembly’s authority pursuant to the United States Constitution to regulate elections; and

3. Disapproves of and disagrees with the Secretary of the Commonwealth’s premature certification of the results of the November 3, 2020 election regarding presidential electors; and

4. Declares that the selection of presidential electors and other statewide electoral contest results in this Commonwealth is in dispute; and

5. Urges the Secretary of the Commonwealth and the Governor to withdraw or vacate the certification of presidential electors and to delay certification of results in other statewide electoral contests voted on at the 2020 General Election; and

6. Urges the United States Congress to declare the selection of presidential electors in this Commonwealth to be in dispute.
 

 

The resolution seeks to reverse the certification and the sponsors promise to bring their case to the Supreme Court if necessary.

 

On Monday (Nov 30), AZ Legislature will hold a public hearing similar to what the PA Legislature did in Gettysburg on Wednesday. Like the PA hearing, witnesses will be making statements related to their sworn affidavits alleging irregularities and rule/constitutional violations in the conduct of elections and counting.

 

If we have a free press, they would be covering these hearings, as well as the ongoing lawsuits in GA, MI, PA, AZ, NV and the partial recount in WI. 

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Earlier this week, a PA judge issued a temporary halt to certification of PA election results. Tonight, the same judge upholds her earlier ruling to halt certification --

 

Pennsylvania State Judge Upholds Halt To Certification, Finds Likelihood Mail-In Balloting Procedures Violate PA Constitution

Here's the key sentence in the Judge's ruling:

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“Petitioners appear to have a viable claim that the mail-in ballot procedures set forth in Act 77 contravene Pa. Const. Article VII Section 14”

 

This case is NOT the same as the case filed by Trump's lawyers. The petitioners in this case argue that Act 77 (expanding the mail-in ballots in PA) is unconstitutional because it was not properly ratified before it was enacted.

 

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Petitioners allege that mail-in voting in the form implemented through Act 77 is an attempt by the legislature to fundamentally overhaul the Pennsylvania voting system and permit universal, no-excuse, mail-in voting absent any constitutional authority. Id., ¶17. Petitioners argue that in order to amend the Constitution, mandatory procedural requirements must be strictly followed. Specifically, pursuant to Article XI, Section 1, a proposed constitutional amendment must be approved by a majority vote of the members of both the Pennsylvania House of Representatives and Senate in two consecutive legislative sessions, then the proposed amendment must be published for three months ahead of the next general election in two newspapers in each county, and finally it must be submitted to the qualified electors as a ballot question in the next general election and approved by a majority of those voting on the amendment. According to Petitioners, the legislature did not follow the necessary procedures for amending the Constitution before enacting Act 77 which created a new category of mail-in voting; therefore, the mail-in ballot scheme under Act 77 is unconstitutional on its face and must be struck down.

 

This case is expected to go to PA Supreme Court, then SCOTUS if necessary.

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Earlier this week, a PA judge issued a temporary halt to certification of PA election results. Tonight, the same judge upholds her earlier ruling to halt certification --

 

Pennsylvania State Judge Upholds Halt To Certification, Finds Likelihood Mail-In Balloting Procedures Violate PA Constitution

Here's the key sentence in the Judge's ruling:

 

This case is NOT the same as the case filed by Trump's lawyers. The petitioners in this case argue that Act 77 (expanding the mail-in ballots in PA) is unconstitutional because it was not properly ratified before it was enacted.

 

 

This case is expected to go to PA Supreme Court, then SCOTUS if necessary.

If I'm not mistaken, (in a nutshell) it was the PA supreme court that made this change to their election process despite their own state law that says act 77 was ambiguous in its wording and any change would render it non ambiguous which would then violate their own law and the U.S. Constitution which states only state legislators can make federal election procedures. Time, place, ect.

 

Looks like PA has got a real pickle on their hands. 

 

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