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1 hour ago, CarmenSandiego said:


There’s just one person left:  Abi.

 

 I think that you hit upon the main reason why Will came in second:  he was solid, but none of his performances stood out from the others enough.  Also, I don’t think that any of his performances were good enough to be considered as a “moment”.


Abi needed some massive pimping for Will to come in second. That’s the “main reason.” :haha:
 

I’m not suggesting she isn’t a worthy winner. 

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Will’s Folsom Prison Blues and Bonnie and Clyde were my 2 favorites from him, I thought he was on an upwards trajectory from there but then he kinda stagnated again, the Disney song wasn’t good as you said and honestly Abi was the only one who did a Bon Jovi cover that I liked so she did deserve to win after that imo. That being said Will was definitely one of the best country singers we had lately, from what I heard of Noah and Chayce I think I preferred Will.

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29 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


Abi needed some massive pimping for Will to come in second. That’s the “main reason.” :haha:
 

I’m not suggesting she isn’t a worthy winner. 

i actually think abi won in the worst possible final 3 combo she could’ve had (triston getting eliminated and no vote split from country voters happening at the finale). she got pimped with the billie thing but if she hadn’t delivered w her finale performances, i doubt that would’ve been enough for her to win. 

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35 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


Abi needed some massive pimping for Will to come in second. That’s the “main reason.” :haha:
 

I’m not suggesting she isn’t a worthy winner. 

Yeah, i hate when they blatanly pimp certain contestants, except in this case, Abi was my favorite so i didn't have a problem with it. I love when my favorites are pimped as hell. But i can't stand that contestants that aren't my favorites get pimped, because that's unfair.   

 

I'm pretty much a huge hypocrite but at least i accept it.🤷

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7 minutes ago, wildestinvegas said:

i actually think abi won in the worst possible final 3 combo she could’ve had (triston getting eliminated and no vote split from country voters happening at the finale). she got pimped with the billie thing but if she hadn’t delivered w her finale performances, i doubt that would’ve been enough for her to win. 

Both things can be true, she was mostly consistent and she even gave some great performances that made her standout even more ("Bring Me To Life" between others) and her finale set was the best. Yeah, she was pimped and i think that honestly helped somehow because we know how this show is with women in general lol. But her talent also contributed a lot in her win.

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4 minutes ago, Gustavo527 said:

Yeah, i hate when they blatanly pimp certain contestants, except in this case, Abi was my favorite so i didn't have a problem with it. I love when my favorites are pimped as hell. But i can't stand that contestants that aren't my favorites get pimped, because that's unfair.  

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6 hours ago, Gustavo527 said:

Yeah, i hate when they blatanly pimp certain contestants, except in this case, Abi was my favorite so i didn't have a problem with it. I love when my favorites are pimped as hell. But i can't stand that contestants that aren't my favorites get pimped, because that's unfair.   

 

I'm pretty much a huge hypocrite but at least i accept it.🤷


It’s very similar to how they did Grace West, and I know how you felt about that. 
 

At the end of the day, I’m not sure it matters, though. That’s why I haven’t been complaining about it. 

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On 6/18/2024 at 2:12 PM, Crisis said:

 

- I know Mia has an account and has posted here, so I was just having fun in case she stumbled across this thread. :haha:

I didn’t realize this was a joke so I was in tears by the time I finished reading it🧍🏻‍♂️

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6 hours ago, mmmatt said:

I didn’t realize this was a joke so I was in tears by the time I finished reading it🧍🏻‍♂️

 

On 6/8/2024 at 7:01 PM, Crisis said:

There are two ways this can end: either I make her cry or the other way around...

 

Well, I didn't expect this to literally happen. Time to face the music.

 

While I won't say I don't have a mean bone in my body, I do try not to be intentionally malicious whether in real life or online. My attempts at humor are mostly lighthearted and try to liven up my threads every now and then. For example, my thoughts about Blake Proehl had a bunch of football references sprinkled in because of him and his father being former NFL wide receivers. I also cheekily referenced something at the end of the genuine conclusion of your wrap-up. Unfortunately for me, outside of one person they, along with my other attempts, haven't been acknowledged that much if at all.

 

The harsh synopsis was one of those attempts. I wrote it because I thought you would get a kick out of it. Instead, it appears you were kicked by it. It made me realize my humorous endeavors are written with the thought of how I would react to them. In this case, I would've laughed and maybe volunteered some other unsavory traits about me. However, not everyone will react the same way. I did say at the beginning don't be afraid to call me out if I overstep, and it appears I did so here. The last thing I want is to make someone feel low or unwelcome.

 

I can't promise I will stop making bad jokes, but I will try to be more cognizant going forward.

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On 6/19/2024 at 5:32 AM, Weedy_Speedy said:

As for performances, I'm surprised "Modern Day Bonnie and Clyde" didn't get a shout-out, that was easily his best imo. Agreed that "Folsom Prison Blues" was also very good. I dug the arrangement for "Rolling in the Deep", but his singing was flat as a pancake, so meh lol.

 

"Modern Day Bonnie and Clyde" didn't really do anything for me. 🤷‍♂️ Looking back, his "Rolling in the Deep" was on the flatter end; however, I liked his tone despite that and felt it could've been his standout performance had he sung it better.

 

On 6/19/2024 at 5:52 AM, TeamAudra said:

Will was my favorite of the season. My only critiques are:

 

-Too many rock songs. Once he had proven he could do it, he didn’t need to keep going back to that well. 
 

-The Disney song he picked sucks. 

 

Personally, I would've liked to have seen him give more soulful performances similar to "(Sittin' on) The Dock of the Bay". While I didn't mind his rock performances, I can understand this thought.

 

No arguments from me about the Disney song. That is not one of their better ones to put it mildly.

 

On 6/19/2024 at 9:20 AM, CarmenSandiego said:

There’s just one person left:  Abi.

 

I keep reading about this Abi person. I don't recall such a contestant participating in S22. As far as I know, Will Moseley was crowned the winner. 😉

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On 6/18/2024 at 12:12 PM, Crisis said:

 

Unfortunately, it was only a check-up. The way my dentist explained everything when they referred me to the specialist made me think they were going to do the procedure yesterday. 😒 The actual operation is scheduled for July 3, but they will let me know if anything sooner becomes available. I was hoping they would do it yesterday just to get it out of the way. For now, I've been prescribed antibiotics and ibuprofen which I have to take prior to the procedure. In the meantime, I hope you got some sufficient rest despite being awake near your bedtime. :haha:


- As I said, I wasn't going to comment on performances with original songs because those are tricky. He was certainly more interesting after he could no longer perform his original songs.

- I know Mia has an account and has posted here, so I was just having fun in case she stumbled across this thread. :haha:

 

- I did watch McKenna's (and Julia's) and commented on them on this page. :yes: I can understand why someone prefer her earlier in the season than later.

 

- OK, I've reached my minimum on how many auditions I will watch. :lmao: As for Jack, I'm sure your love for him will be big enough to accommodate my forgetfulness. :haha:

 

 

Oh no, that's so annoying and inconvenient. 😐 Well, hopefully that day comes sooner than later for you, but I totally get wanting it to just be over already. :no: I had oral surgery a couple of summers ago, and it was awful. 😢 Hopefully your recovery won't be nearly as bad. Oh, thank you. :haha: 

 

- That's fair, but I still can. :giggle: 

- Ohhhhhhh. I knew it wasn't real but couldn't figure out what that was about. :dead:  I see she did comment, so I won't say any more on that. I'm just glad those weren't your real thoughts, of course.

 

- Okay, I'll have to search for your comments then. :shiftywave:

 

- Noooo. 😢 There are more that begged to be watched. 😮 I suppose so. :blushingwave: 

 

- Will: I can't really disagree on anything you said here, especially the pros and cons. You nailed it for me too. He was definitely good and consistent, but I was never crazy either way for his performances. And now you have me rewatching your favorite performance of his to see Jack clapping along. :lmao: Okay, I've seen it. :lmao: :giggle:And I kind of thought the same thing about the censoring on his Adele cover! I don't even know. :haha:  

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14 hours ago, Crisis said:

I keep reading about this Abi person. I don't recall such a contestant participating in S22. As far as I know, Will Moseley was crowned the winner. 😉


Are you kidding me about not recalling Abi?

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On 6/21/2024 at 10:09 PM, miss denise said:

 

Oh no, that's so annoying and inconvenient. 😐 Well, hopefully that day comes sooner than later for you, but I totally get wanting it to just be over already. :no: I had oral surgery a couple of summers ago, and it was awful. 😢 Hopefully your recovery won't be nearly as bad. Oh, thank you. :haha: 

 

- That's fair, but I still can. :giggle: 

- Ohhhhhhh. I knew it wasn't real but couldn't figure out what that was about. :dead:  I see she did comment, so I won't say any more on that. I'm just glad those weren't your real thoughts, of course.

 

- Okay, I'll have to search for your comments then. :shiftywave:

 

- Noooo. 😢 There are more that begged to be watched. 😮 I suppose so. :blushingwave: 

 

- Will: I can't really disagree on anything you said here, especially the pros and cons. You nailed it for me too. He was definitely good and consistent, but I was never crazy either way for his performances. And now you have me rewatching your favorite performance of his to see Jack clapping along. :lmao: Okay, I've seen it. :lmao: :giggle:And I kind of thought the same thing about the censoring on his Adele cover! I don't even know. :haha:  

 

Well, I can proudly say the day came sooner! An appointment cancelled on Wednesday, so I was able to go in and have the procedure. It wasn't that bad; the worst part was the numbing. Other than that, everything was successful. The most annoying part is I have to eat foods that don't require a lot of chewing because I can't chew on that side. Besides that, I have to get the other side done next month, but at least I know what to expect now. You're welcome.

 

- Hey, nothing wrong with that!

- Yeah. As I said, I will never go out of my way to be deliberately needlessly cruel to someone.

 

- Did you find them yet? :shiftywave:

 

- I'm afraid I'll have to be firm here although I am open to bribes or any convincing arguments to change my mind😉

 

- I don't have much to add here except I mostly agree with your thoughts. Jack looked like he was fighting some internal battle on whether or not he was enjoying himself. :lmao: I'm glad I'm not the only one who had that thought regarding Will's Adele performance. :haha:

 

On 6/22/2024 at 9:26 AM, QueenKalie said:

Who is Abi?

 

Someone understands the assignment!

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Since I've been informed that there is someone named Abi who not only was in S22 but also the winner, I guess I'll have to write about her. :/ :haha:

 

ABI CARTER

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Why is she the only one with a color photo? :/ (Before any of her supporters jump down my throat, it's a rhetorical question. :haha:)

 

POSITIVE:

Pure crystal-clear voice

 

NEGATIVE:

Her overzealous fanbase, upper register can be strident at times

 

LEAST FAVORITE PERFORMANCE: ALL TOO WELL

Well, there are quite a few things I didn’t care for in this performance. For starters, I’m not a fan of the song itself, so deduct a few points here. Next, the singing sounded uninspired; it sounded like she was going through the motions. To add to this, the last chorus was shrieky, as if her voice got away from her. The last thing I’ll mention is that as is often the case the band was too loud with the chorus sections being the most prevalent problem areas. With everything combined, this performance did not go all too well for Abi.

 

FAVORITE PERFORMANCE: PART OF YOUR WORLD

Sometimes, it’s great to hear a Disney song in its purest form, and Abi delivered that in spades. She looked and sounded like a Disney princess, and she could not have picked a better song to highlight her voice. Not only were the vocals on point, but she also captured the ethereal and wishful nuances Ariel displayed during the song. Another thing I will give her kudos for is completely disregarding Kane Brown’s advice of moving around and interacting with the crowd during the performance. That may work on a more upbeat song such as “Under the Sea”, but not this one (as an aside, Kane Brown was the most disinterested mentor I can remember since Gwen Stefani). This was one of my favorite S22 performances and although Catie Turner’s “Once Upon a Dream” is my favorite Disney performance, this one is right up there with it.

 

OVERALL:

Originally, I had two write-ups planned for Abi. One was going to be an extremely harsh parody but after seeing my previous attempt not going over so well, I scrapped the idea and decided to stick with just the authentic one.

 

So we’ve finally reached the end of the cast, and the IDF It Girl is the one capping everything off. Bea Arthur, Betty White, Rue McClanahan, and Estelle Getty have nothing on this Golden Girl. Abi was often compared to Angie Miller during the season and funny enough, she is someone who I put under what I call the Angie Miller Microscope. What this means is that someone is lauded and hyped tremendously during the season and because of that, I look at them with a more severely critical eye than I would the others. It’s named after Angie Miller because that was the first contestant who I viewed this way because of all the hype and praise she received after her audition and especially her “You Set Me Free” performance during Hollywood. Fair? Probably not, but that’s how my brain is wired. Hence, I wasn’t overly impressed with Abi throughout the season, and the constant praise she received had me wondering if I missed something because I didn’t think everything was as great as it was made out to be.

 

With that said, I’ve come away with more appreciation for Abi upon rewatching her run sans the fanfare. I still don’t think she’s this impeccable talent she’s hyped up to be but while her run wasn’t flawless (besides “All Too Well”, I didn’t care for “Welcome to the Black Parade” or “The Chain”), she had a portfolio of solid performances on Idol. The best thing that happened to her was Luke advising her not to stick to singing ballads behind the piano because not only was she not going to win doing nothing but piano ballads, but it also pushed her to become a more well-rounded performer, which I think will benefit her more in the long run (now only if the judges were more consistent and offered more advice like this to everyone). All in all, Abi is a talented singer/musician who had her shining moments, and hopefully for her and her fans, this isn’t over as far as her future is concerned.

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i agree that All Too Well is by far Abi's weakest performance. in my opinion, Taylor's songs just do not translate well to the context of a singing competition. i feel like a reason why a lot of her songs resonate with people is because of the context of the songwriting in terms of Taylor's career, relationships, and her "lore" as a whole. when you take her songs out of context and try to perform a cover of them, they fall flat. besides that, it was also just Abi's weakest vocal showing with a weird arrangement imo. 

 

i'm interested to hear your thoughts on the season as a whole! 

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2 hours ago, Crisis said:

Since I've been informed that there is someone named Abi who not only was in S22 but also the winner, I guess I'll have to write about her. :/ :haha:

 

 

ABI CARTER

SeFbiMY.jpeg

Why is she the only one with a color photo? :/ (Before any of her supporters jump down my throat, it's a rhetorical question. :haha:)

 

POSITIVE:

Pure crystal-clear voice

 

NEGATIVE:

Her overzealous fanbase, upper register can be strident at times

 

LEAST FAVORITE PERFORMANCE: ALL TOO WELL

Well, there are quite a few things I didn’t care for in this performance. For starters, I’m not a fan of the song itself, so deduct a few points here. Next, the singing sounded uninspired; it sounded like she was going through the motions. To add to this, the last chorus was shrieky, as if her voice got away from her. The last thing I’ll mention is that as is often the case the band was too loud with the chorus sections being the most prevalent problem areas. With everything combined, this performance did not go all too well for Abi.

 

FAVORITE PERFORMANCE: PART OF YOUR WORLD

Sometimes, it’s great to hear a Disney song in its purest form, and Abi delivered that in spades. She looked and sounded like a Disney princess, and she could not have picked a better song to highlight her voice. Not only were the vocals on point, but she also captured the ethereal and wishful nuances Ariel displayed during the song. Another thing I will give her kudos for is completely disregarding Kane Brown’s advice of moving around and interacting with the crowd during the performance. That may work on a more upbeat song such as “Under the Sea”, but not this one (as an aside, Kane Brown was the most disinterested mentor I can remember since Gwen Stefani). This was one of my favorite S22 performances and although Catie Turner’s “Once Upon a Dream” is my favorite Disney performance, this one is right up there with it.

 

OVERALL:

Originally, I had two write-ups planned for Abi. One was going to be an extremely harsh parody but after seeing my previous attempt not going over so well, I scrapped the idea and decided to stick with just the authentic one.

 

So we’ve finally reached the end of the cast, and the IDF It Girl is the one capping everything off. Bea Arthur, Betty White, Rue McClanahan, and Estelle Getty have nothing on this Golden Girl. Abi was often compared to Angie Miller during the season and funny enough, she is someone who I put under what I call the Angie Miller Microscope. What this means is that someone is lauded and hyped tremendously during the season and because of that, I look at them with a more severely critical eye than I would the others. It’s named after Angie Miller because that was the first contestant who I viewed this way because of all the hype and praise she received after her audition and especially her “You Set Me Free” performance during Hollywood. Fair? Probably not, but that’s how my brain is wired. Hence, I wasn’t overly impressed with Abi throughout the season, and the constant praise she received had me wondering if I missed something because I didn’t think everything was as great as it was made out to be.

 

With that said, I’ve come away with more appreciation for Abi upon rewatching her run sans the fanfare. I still don’t think she’s this impeccable talent she’s hyped up to be but while her run wasn’t flawless (besides “All Too Well”, I didn’t care for “Welcome to the Black Parade” or “The Chain”), she had a portfolio of solid performances on Idol. The best thing that happened to her was Luke advising her not to stick to singing ballads behind the piano because not only was she not going to win doing nothing but piano ballads, but it also pushed her to become a more well-rounded performer, which I think will benefit her more in the long run (now only if the judges were more consistent and offered more advice like this to everyone). All in all, Abi is a talented singer/musician who had her shining moments, and hopefully for her and her fans, this isn’t over as far as her future is concerned.


Yeah, I can get overzealous.

 

I agree that her worst performance in the voting rounds was “All Too Well”, but my favorite was “Bring Me To Life”.  That said, “Part of Your World” was also great.

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Meh, I couldn't care less about an "overzealous fanbase" because these days, that's tame as sh*t compared to IDF of yesteryear. :haha: I cut my teeth arguing against It-Girl fanbases that Abi's most passionate supporters could never begin to compare to. People like Katharine, Siobhan, Pia, Haley, Hollie, Angie, Jena... I could go on.

 

Anyway, Abi was just alright for me in the semifinals (I hated "Black Parade"), but she picked better songs in the later weeks that slowly converted me into a fan. The light switch fully turned on for me with "Bring Me to Life", that was a sensational performance that on paper, shouldn't have worked for Abi, but it did. Major kudos to Luke for the song choice, because in my books? The momentum that performance gave propelled Abi to a different level compared to her competition and ultimately cinched her the crown. The It-Girl can win every now and then, so congrats IDF.

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5 hours ago, m1key said:

i agree that All Too Well is by far Abi's weakest performance. in my opinion, Taylor's songs just do not translate well to the context of a singing competition. i feel like a reason why a lot of her songs resonate with people is because of the context of the songwriting in terms of Taylor's career, relationships, and her "lore" as a whole. when you take her songs out of context and try to perform a cover of them, they fall flat. besides that, it was also just Abi's weakest vocal showing with a weird arrangement imo. 

 

i'm interested to hear your thoughts on the season as a whole! 

I get what you are saying, but at the very least, there are exceptions to this. 

 

 

 

Regardless if you like these or not, those performances made it to the Top 10 on iTunes. 

 

I'm referring to these because these are live, but honestly there have been some really amazing performances of Taylor's songs in the pre-lives on The Voice. 

 

This compilation also has some good ones: 

 

 

 

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I’m one of those annoying Abi fans (although I tried to be less annoying than with Wé last year lol) but I’ll admit I didn’t really like Welcome to the Black Parade? I’m all for creative reinterpretation but the song was so slowed that it’s almost unrecognizable. MCR is one of my favorite bands but I was always more of a Helena/Famous Last Words girl so I’m not even being that protective of the song, I just didn’t like it that much.

 

That being said Hello, BMTL and Bed of Roses were stunning. Yellow Brick Road was amazing too just not quite in the same tier imo.

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On 6/23/2024 at 1:16 PM, m1key said:

i agree that All Too Well is by far Abi's weakest performance. in my opinion, Taylor's songs just do not translate well to the context of a singing competition. i feel like a reason why a lot of her songs resonate with people is because of the context of the songwriting in terms of Taylor's career, relationships, and her "lore" as a whole. when you take her songs out of context and try to perform a cover of them, they fall flat. besides that, it was also just Abi's weakest vocal showing with a weird arrangement imo. 

 

i'm interested to hear your thoughts on the season as a whole! 

 

This is a good point. It made me think of something.

 

There tend to be two categories when it comes to artists that Idol contestants are advised to stay away from:

 

1. Those with peerless range and tone. Even if the contestants do a good job with their songs, they always run the risk of not matching up to the original artist. Examples include the diva trifecta of Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, and Celine Dion (never mind there were themes dedicated to the first two in past seasons). I would also put singers like Freddie Mercury and Chaka Khan in this category.

 

2. Those with such unique styles that it's difficult for anyone but the original artists to do justice to their songs. I mentioned the B-52s as being part of this category earlier in the thread. It appears Taylor Swift is another one who can fall in this category although there are some examples posted that show to be the exceptions.

 

I'm still thinking about doing this, although the signs point to me eventually getting around to it.

 

2 hours ago, nytsch said:

I’m one of those annoying Abi fans (although I tried to be less annoying than with Wé last year lol) but I’ll admit I didn’t really like Welcome to the Black Parade? I’m all for creative reinterpretation but the song was so slowed that it’s almost unrecognizable. MCR is one of my favorite bands but I was always more of a Helena/Famous Last Words girl so I’m not even being that protective of the song, I just didn’t like it that much.

 

To add to this, Welcome to the Black Parade is one of those songs that is hard to do justice to in this type of setting. It has too much going on in it, and cutting out any part makes the song feel incomplete. The prime example of Abi's performance was her singing only the first line of the intro before segueing into the verse. The intro is probably the most recognizable and iconic part of the song; therefore, for it to be cut as short as it was felt disjointed and discombobulated. I nearly put this as my least favorite Abi performance; however, despite its faults, it still sounded nice at times. I can't say the same for All Too Well.

 

Speaking of Abi, it may seem like I'm anti-IDF It-Girl. However, I can assure you that's far from the truth. I tend to be more amused than annoyed when it comes to them and the reactions to them, and Abi was no different. I just enjoy poking fun and invoking some reactions, and it's evident that my style of humor does not translate well most of the time. Besides, the support for favorites here is relatively harmless compared to the real world (the prime example going on now is some of the more insane Swifties' behavior and reactions towards Dave Grohl after he made an offhanded joke about Taylor Swift). I've liked and still like a few It-Girls; heck, my favorite Idol contestant is one of the biggest ones there has ever been. The important thing is to continue supporting your favorites, and ignore the discord and useless criticisms towards them.

 

With that said, there may be more of this next season, so consider this an early warning. 😜

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