The Voice General Discussion Thread 🧵

[QueenKalie]

1 minute ago, allistr said:

 

I missed when there were real fan wars

Was that the last really nasty fan wars? I'm trying to think of others. Maybe GNT vs Wendy?

[Weirdoo]

15 minutes ago, QueenKalie said:

It was one of the most blatant examples of production manipulation the show has had.   But if you wanna believe the results were real and not manipulated then you do you I guess.

I promise you, if there is one show that wouldn't bother breaking the law to rig a result that wouldn't please their predominantly conservative and republican viewerbase, that show is The Voice 

Edited November 16, 2024 by Weirdoo

[QueenKalie]

9 minutes ago, Weirdoo said:

I promise you, if there is one show that wouldn't bother breaking the law to rig a result that wouldn't please their predominantly conservative and republican viewerbase, that show is The Voice 

You have been a poster on this forum for a long time now but this post just kinda shows you don't know much about the show or the production side of things.

[Weirdoo]

4 minutes ago, QueenKalie said:

You have been a poster on this forum for a long time now but this post just kinda shows you don't know much about the show or the production side of things.

If you’re implying that the show probably wanted Chris (or Alicia) to win, I won’t argue with that because we all know about pimping and bussing and that does happen, but saying they straight up rigged the final count of votes is just stop the count delulu stuff, there’s no proof of that.

[Gustavo527]

26 minutes ago, Weirdoo said:

I promise you, if there is one show that wouldn't bother breaking the law to rig a result that wouldn't please their predominantly conservative and republican viewerbase, that show is not The Voice 

 

I strongly, STRONGLY doubt that they have ever actually rig the votes because yeah, i'm 99.9% sure that doing something like that is literally against the law lol. So, they use other tactics of manipulation like song choices, performances' order, etc. To get the narrative they want. Obviously there is a lot of other factors in play, so sometimes their tactics work, and sometimes don't. 

 

American Idol does the same thing. I mean, all the hype they built around Abi since her audition, and it was not only the Platinum Ticket thing because i don't think they were so over-dramatic on Julia or the other guy's audition lol. All the over-praising, multiple stances where she closed the show, etc. They needed a female winner, and she was her best chance to get one, so they went with it. 

 

Same happened with Maelyn. She was in the premiere, closed her episode on Cross-Battles, closed the Top 13 and closed the Finale lol. Remember how they promoted the season?? The LE-GEN-DA-RY season. They promoted Legend to hell and back, and Maelyn was the best chance to get him a win. And imaginé her winning against three Team Blake members?? That would make great TV, of course, so why not?

 

I love both Abi and Maelyn, and i'm sure their great talents definitely played a very big party on their wins. But of course, having the producers on your side helps, a lot, especially when you are against the white country guys that the audience loves like they both were. 

Edited November 16, 2024 by Gustavo527

[Gustavo527]

9 minutes ago, Weirdoo said:

If you’re implying that the show probably wanted Chris (or Alicia) to win, I won’t argue with that because we all know about pimping and bussing and that does happen, but saying they straight up rigged the final count of votes is just stop the count delulu stuff, there’s no proof of that.

I finished my previous reply before i got to see this post lol. But yeah, i don't think QueenKaile thinks they rig the votes, he is probably referring to the same things i mentioned before, like the manipulation tactics and everything. 

 

[Gustavo527]

Now on topic, let's be honest with ourselves for a minute: we only hate when TPTB manipulates things against our favorites. When they manipulate things in favour of our favorites, we are perfectly fine with all their tactics, no matter what.

Edited November 16, 2024 by Gustavo527

[Weirdoo]

13 minutes ago, Gustavo527 said:

I finished my previous reply before i got to see this post lol. But yeah, i don't think QueenKaile thinks they rig the votes, he is probably referring to the same things i mentioned before, like the manipulation tactics and everything. 

 

I figured, but as you said above, we're ok with it when it's for our favorites, so the the usage of the word rigging implies Lauren was "meant" to win, and quite frankly they didn't do much besides giving Chris one or two pimp spots, when Lauren's song choices were so questionable even her fans at the time wondered if she was being bussed. They were not really pimp spot material lol

Edited November 16, 2024 by Weirdoo

[QueenCami]

i’m not sure if all would agree but s12’s top two was quite strong. not s13 level for me but still a great top two

[QueenKalie]

28 minutes ago, Weirdoo said:

If you’re implying that the show probably wanted Chris (or Alicia) to win, I won’t argue with that because we all know about pimping and bussing and that does happen, but saying they straight up rigged the final count of votes is just stop the count delulu stuff, there’s no proof of that.

Who used the word rigged?

[Weirdoo]

5 minutes ago, QueenKalie said:

Who used the word rigged?

My apologies, "manipulated", point stands. They gave Chris some pimp spots and he happened to win (by who knows what margin) despite the amount of factors against a contestant like him.

[QueenKalie]

Just now, Weirdoo said:

My apologies, "manipulated", point stands. They gave Chris some pimp spots and he happened to win (by who knows what margin) despite the amount of factors against a contestant like him.

Manipulation the results to get their desired winner is vastly different than cheating and outright rigging the votes. So your point was wrong and it doesn't stand.

[Weirdoo]

6 minutes ago, QueenKalie said:

Manipulation the results to get their desired winner is vastly different than cheating and outright rigging the votes. So your point was wrong and it doesn't stand.

That's why I said above that if you're talking about pimping/bussing then that's fair since that does happen, but my point that implying Chris' win was manipulated as if Lauren was the rightful winner still stands lol

 

We can agree to disagree. You're entitled to feeling like he won because of whatever manipulation you believe occurred, and I'm entitled to feeling like he won by overcoming hurdles way greater than any advantage a pimp spot or two could provide. 

 

 

 

[QueenKalie]

18 minutes ago, Weirdoo said:

That's why I said above that if you're talking about pimping/bussing then that's fair since that does happen, but my point that implying Chris' win was manipulated as if Lauren was the rightful winner still stands lol

 

We can agree to disagree. You're entitled to feeling like he won because of whatever manipulation you believe occurred, and I'm entitled to feeling like he won by overcoming hurdles way greater than any advantage a pimp spot or two could provide. 

 

 

 

I never called Lauren the rightful winner, and I certainly no longer care about the result of a season that happened like a decade ago.  Besides it's not like it even matters neither of their careers went anywhere as a result of the show. All I said was I noticed during this season was how the producers would do things to get their desired result. However you or I feel about the results aren't really relevant to the point that I was making. 

[TeamAudra]

We’ve now had 5 black males win the show in 25 seasons, so I’m not sure I buy this idea that they’re at a huge disadvantage with the audience, especially against a female of any race. 

Edited November 16, 2024 by TeamAudra

[TeamAudra]

The past 9 seasons since Maelyn won: 

 

-7 male solo winners (including 2 black males)

 

-1 female solo winner 

 

-GNT

[Weirdoo]

22 minutes ago, QueenKalie said:

I never called Lauren the rightful winner, and I certainly no longer care about the result of a season that happened like a decade ago.  Besides it's not like it even matters neither of their careers went anywhere as a result of the show. All I said was I noticed during this season was how the producers would do things to get their desired result. However you or I feel about the results aren't really relevant to the point that I was making. 

Lol I was just confused here at the point that was being made, you brought up a "Lauren/Chris situation" as the moment you woke up to the fact production does production things, and I genuinely don't remember them doing much there besides giving Chris some pimp spots, but if you can remember anything else do let me know 

 

Brennley being given whatever Suds in the Buckets was though, now that is a good example of manipulation on a very critical round that season. I wonder what they were trying to accomplish 

[Someone648]

5 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:

The past 9 seasons since Maelyn won: 

 

-7 male solo winners (including 2 black males)

 

-1 female solo winner 

 

-GNT

[QueenKalie]

9 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:

We’ve now had 5 black males win the show in 25 seasons, so I’m not sure I buy this idea that they’re at a huge disadvantage with the audience, especially against a female of any race. 

Yeah the people that act like being a blonde female country singer is a massive advantage on singing shows is kinda funny to me because the show has had what 1 female blonde country singer winner in 25 seasons. Not to mention what women in general have to deal with in the country genre.  

[Someone648]

2 hours ago, Weirdoo said:

Lauren was a white, blonde, Team Blake country singer up against a black R&B guy from a new coach, and her ass still couldn't pull off the win. If anything that was one of the realest results ever 

Me every time you come out of hibernation and post something to IDF:

 

[RTV]

Blake's new single

 

 

https://countrynow.com/blake-shelton-gives-a-witty-nod-to-a-george-strait-classic-in-bold-new-single-texas

[allistr]

4 minutes ago, Someone648 said:

Me every time you come out of hibernation and post something to IDF:

 

Jamella get him!

[TeamAudra]

5 minutes ago, QueenKalie said:

Yeah the people that act like being a blonde female country singer is a massive advantage on singing shows is kinda funny to me because the show has had what 1 female blonde country singer winner in 25 seasons. Not to mention what women in general have to deal with in the country genre.  

Female country singers, regardless of hair color, typically have a hard time on the show. They’ll occasionally make a finale, but usually aren’t competitive. Obviously, there have been a few exceptions. Being a female is the biggest disadvantage with the audience. 

[+Dany]

More info on Sundance. 

 

https://people.com/country-singer-and-the-voice-winner-jason-sundance-head-shot-in-texas-8746641

 

Quote

According to Misty, Head had been alone at the ranch when the incident happened. 

“It was not his hunting rifle and no nobody shot him. He was out of the vehicle reaching in to grab his 22 when he grabbed it the 22 came out of its holster and hit the exterior of the Jeep just right and went off. Sundance said it happened so fast and he could see the bullet dislodging,” she wrote. 

 

[Weirdoo]

3 minutes ago, allistr said:

Jamella get him!

JUMPSCARE

 

12 minutes ago, Someone648 said:

Count on me to make my semi-annual appearance to argue over something, but it's always good to come here and seeing you carrying this show harder than TPTB could ever. You rock