The Voice General Discussion Thread 🧵

[+Dany]

3 hours ago, QueenKalie said:

Blake working on another singing show with Taylor Sheridan is kinda crazy.

https://www.eonline.com/news/1409811/blake-shelton-announces-new-singing-competition-show-after-leaving-the-voice

istersay made a topic in the TV subforum 

I like the concept. It's good chance for new artist to open for Blake 

[+Dany]

Ariana Grande talked a bit about the voice in a podcast

 

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-las-culturistas-with-matt-31090140/episode/ive-been-through-w-ariana-grande-235445958/

 

 

According to the transcript the timestamp is 01:18:51

 

I haven't listened to it and the transcript seem automatically generated so it's spotty.

 

I can't copy and paste on my phone the transcript keep jumping around. But mainly she get too attwch to contestants and had a hard time eliminating them so she won't come back.

[Kenneth96]

7 hours ago, Dany said:

Ariana Grande talked a bit about the voice in a podcast

 

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-las-culturistas-with-matt-31090140/episode/ive-been-through-w-ariana-grande-235445958/

 

 

According to the transcript the timestamp is 01:18:51

 

I haven't listened to it and the transcript seem automatically generated so it's spotty.

 

I can't copy and paste on my phone the transcript keep jumping around. But mainly she get too attwch to contestants and had a hard time eliminating them so she won't come back.

I think they also won't invite her back. The amount of money they spent for her can pay Chance and Camila to do 3 seasons. I personally think she was a little out of place while doing the show, she's too big for this show. They need Niall to come back to save their ratings.

[StarWalker1]

just pure slayage

 

 

[AliXRose]

Kelly Clarkson

[StarWalker1]

1 minute ago, AliXRose said:

Kelly Clarkson

Period

[Misirlou]

A good portion of IDF still watches the show, because we like discovering new artists, etc.

 

But genuine question: When (in what season maybe) did you stop taking the show seriously? (If you ever took it seriously to being with).

 

I mean, when you understood its bullcrap, that there's manipulation, and no star making platform whatsoever?

Edited November 15, 2024 by Misirlou

[TeamAudra]

51 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

A good portion of IDF still watches the show, because we like discovering new artists, etc.

 

But genuine question: When (in what season maybe) did you stop taking the show seriously? (If you ever took it seriously to being with).

 

I mean, when you understood it’s sbullcrap, that there's manipulation, and no star making platform whatsoever?

It’s hard to put a finger in it. Maybe around S10? It was after that people started saying it was better to not win. I didn’t start watching until S6. I do think the platform was much better for Danielle, Cassidy, Sawyer, Jordan, etc. Now, it’s awful for the contestants, and more about the coaches than ever. 

[StarWalker1]

1 hour ago, Misirlou said:

A good portion of IDF still watches the show, because we like discovering new artists, etc.

 

But genuine question: When (in what season maybe) did you stop taking the show seriously? (If you ever took it seriously to being with).

 

I mean, when you understood its bullcrap, that there's manipulation, and no star making platform whatsoever?

Around season 18 for me, although it was a gradual build up since season 14

[AliXRose]

2 hours ago, Misirlou said:

A good portion of IDF still watches the show, because we like discovering new artists, etc.

 

But genuine question: When (in what season maybe) did you stop taking the show seriously? (If you ever took it seriously to being with).

 

I mean, when you understood its bullcrap, that there's manipulation, and no star making platform whatsoever?

I think during the covid seasons I stopped caring about my favs winning (they almost never did lol) and I just want them to make the finale so I can have as many performances as possible. Now I'm at a point where I just want them to survive the playoffs.

[Gustavo527]

2 hours ago, Misirlou said:

A good portion of IDF still watches the show, because we like discovering new artists, etc.

 

But genuine question: When (in what season maybe) did you stop taking the show seriously? (If you ever took it seriously to being with).

 

I mean, when you understood its bullcrap, that there's manipulation, and no star making platform whatsoever?

When i discovered IDF lol. This forum was a wake-up call for me about the show and how it works

[nytsch]

 

1 hour ago, Misirlou said:

A good portion of IDF still watches the show, because we like discovering new artists, etc.

 

But genuine question: When (in what season maybe) did you stop taking the show seriously? (If you ever took it seriously to being with).

 

I mean, when you understood its bullcrap, that there's manipulation, and no star making platform whatsoever?

Hard to say for sure since I watched many of the seasons after they actually aired, but I think results wise it really went down the drain on S15, the whole lives results were mess after mess. That’s when I couldn’t take it seriously as a singing show anymore, I knew there were biases but with results like basically every season after that through 22 they can’t even pretend it’s about the voice anymore.

 

The new voting system seemed to improve things but now with the show being so niche and not nearly the same demo appeal as it once had, they’re shortening the format and cutting corners so for that I still can’t take it seriously. Imagine how good S24 could have been with a full S17 or S21 format.

[FloorWax]

4 hours ago, Misirlou said:

A good portion of IDF still watches the show, because we like discovering new artists, etc.

 

But genuine question: When (in what season maybe) did you stop taking the show seriously? (If you ever took it seriously to being with).

 

I mean, when you understood its bullcrap, that there's manipulation, and no star making platform whatsoever?

 

I started watching S13, and I have to agree with @nytsch on S15 primarily due to Robegate and neither of JHud’s contestants getting a PV while Chris Kroeze of all people got runner-up.

[+Dany]

https://www.thewrap.com/sundance-head-shot-the-voice-winner-update/

 

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“The Voice” Season 11 winner Sundance Head has been airlifted to a hospital in Texas from his ranch after suffering a gunshot wound, TheWrap has learned.

Additionally, Sundance’s rep tells TheWrap the incident was [...] an “accident or nearby hunter’s stray bullet.”

https://www.facebook.com/sundanceheadofficial/posts/pfbid0CoSiYYYv5vt2pnfdB3fSFPhTfu2fTZPNm7w4mTfR9m7Vv98Kxs2R1x3ZbVGkWJGql

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**UPDATE**

Doctor just called me bullet went in above his navel and lodged into his abdominal wall missing all vital organs. He will not require surgery as they are not removing the bullet I’m sure she said why but my head is in a fog right now. Him being on the bigger side was a good thing. Bullet is in his fatty tissue. Thanks for all the prayers

Prayer Warriors we need y’all. This is Misty - I don’t have a lot of information but please keep Sundance in your prayers. Sundance has been life flighted with a gun shot wound to his stomach per the paramedics who called me. They told me once they land he’s going in for immediate surgery. They did get him stable for the flight (per the paramedic) We are on our way to Tyler now. . Again this is the only information I have at the time. Please just keep him in your prayers.

 

 

[Hsamid]

38 minutes ago, Dany said:

https://www.thewrap.com/sundance-head-shot-the-voice-winner-update/

 

https://www.facebook.com/sundanceheadofficial/posts/pfbid0CoSiYYYv5vt2pnfdB3fSFPhTfu2fTZPNm7w4mTfR9m7Vv98Kxs2R1x3ZbVGkWJGql

 

At least it doesn't appear life threatening... wish him a speedy recovery.

[StarWalker1]

oh my god that sounds terrifying  sending my condolences 

[Weirdoo]

5 hours ago, Misirlou said:

A good portion of IDF still watches the show, because we like discovering new artists, etc.

 

But genuine question: When (in what season maybe) did you stop taking the show seriously? (If you ever took it seriously to being with).

 

I mean, when you understood its bullcrap, that there's manipulation, and no star making platform whatsoever?

Sorry in advance for how long this will be, been on a TV studios binge and this made me reflect.

 

I watched the show live since mid-S2, and I consider 2-S8 the golden age of the show. By golden age, I mean when it was socially remotely close to relevant, both around social media and in the music scene (as much as a singing show which had an awful label as a prize could be), and before the overall public realized, then stopped caring, that no one from this show had a single chance of making it big when the show treated them as pieces of chess for a game between the coaches. I won't get into the racial and social biases the casual demographic of this show obviously had, but that + the show essentially turning itself into what felt like Blake's eternal birthday party, where the guests just play along knowing that the games are rigged for the birthday kid at the end of the day. Sometimes the birthday kid will let his best friend win one or two rounds.

Results wise, Ali Caldwell losing that last Instant Save to Josh Gallagher made me lose whatever love for the show I had left after what they did to Kimberly and India in S8, so I half-assed S12 and rooted for Lilli Passero (who nosedived after KOs), and only stuck around for S13 because rooting for Noah was breath of fresh air. When it became clear he wanted to lose that Instant Save after not tweeting to save himself, I looked back at the past few seasons and realized that even the contestants knew what was up, some even from the start. I stuck around for 14 and 15, but my love for the show was already at 0 and it became negative when Kennedy got 4th against those people. 

 

People talk a lot about singing shows just not being it anymore and struggling to get great applicants, but take a look at some other ones from around that time and I think it became obvious to musicians that going on The Voice was just signing up for a game were coaches played turn around and 90% of them wouldn't remember what you look like the week after it ended. I don't mean to disrespect anyone who still likes to watch this show, but new viewers simply won't understand the feeling from the old seasons when you genuinely believed some of those people stood a chance. Instead, every season the show lost more and more of its essence, to the point it's just on air because they cut everything that they possibly can, and survive off the few semi-viral Blinds that they still get because any The Voice version does.

 

Hats off to Morgan Wallen and Melanie Martinez, they did it on their own. This is a show with a format and prize that already made it bound to fail, and they lost me when they just gave up on trying to prove that wrong and decided to cater to a casual, conservative viewerbase to keep this show on air as much as they can.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 16, 2024 by Weirdoo

[AliXRose]

3 hours ago, Gustavo527 said:

When i discovered IDF lol. This forum was a wake-up call for me about the show and how it works

Oh for sure. If not for IDF I'd still be like "OMG how the hell did Cami Clune not make the finale ?! This is so outrageous "

[Someone648]

1 hour ago, Dany said:

https://www.thewrap.com/sundance-head-shot-the-voice-winner-update/

 

https://www.facebook.com/sundanceheadofficial/posts/pfbid0CoSiYYYv5vt2pnfdB3fSFPhTfu2fTZPNm7w4mTfR9m7Vv98Kxs2R1x3ZbVGkWJGql

 

Glad to see he’ll be ok, scary situation.

[Gustavo527]

Just now, AliXRose said:

Oh for sure. If not for IDF I'd still be like "OMG how the hell did Cami Clune not make the finale ?! This is so outrageous "

Youtube fans still cry every season saying "this is not about The Voice " every time their favorites get eliminated but i don't think they realize how this show or how it's audience works. We in this forum are more aware of it so we can say every time that we are dissapointed, but not really surprised by the outcomes. We know how the audience (Minivan) works and how the producers (TPTB) manipulate that audience so they can achieve whatever narrative they want, using tactics like  "pimping" and "bussing", etc.

[allistr]

12 minutes ago, Gustavo527 said:

Youtube fans still cry every season saying "this is not about The Voice " every time their favorites get eliminated but i don't think they realize how this show or how it's audience works. We in this forum are more aware of it so we can say every time that we are dissapointed, but not really surprised by the outcomes. We know how the audience (Minivan) works and how the producers (TPTB) manipulate that audience so they can achieve whatever narrative they want, using tactics like  "pimping" and "bussing", etc.

Like fans on SM said "I will never watch The Voice again if [their favorites] doesn't win!!! The vote is rigged! The voters are racist! This is the country not the voice!!!" and then I bet they are still watching next season. Overexaggeration is a thing. I was like that at first when I knew the S22 semifinal results and I expressed my anger around here, but then I just accepted that Bryce is gonna win anyway.

Edited November 16, 2024 by allistr

[QueenKalie]

6 hours ago, Misirlou said:

A good portion of IDF still watches the show, because we like discovering new artists, etc.

 

But genuine question: When (in what season maybe) did you stop taking the show seriously? (If you ever took it seriously to being with).

 

I mean, when you understood its bullcrap, that there's manipulation, and no star making platform whatsoever?

I probably had a good idea before this but I think watching the whole Lauren/ Chris Blue situation play out really cemented the fact that the show is very manipulated. 

[Weirdoo]

3 minutes ago, QueenKalie said:

I probably had a good idea before this but I think watching the whole Lauren/ Chris Blue situation play out really cemented the fact that the show is very manipulated. 

Lauren was a white, blonde, Team Blake country singer up against a black R&B guy from a new coach, and her ass still couldn't pull off the win. If anything that was one of the realest results ever 

[allistr]

2 minutes ago, Weirdoo said:

Lauren was a white, blonde, Team Blake country singer up against a black R&B guy from a new coach, and her ass still couldn't pull off the win. If anything that was one of the realest results ever 

 

I missed when there were real fan wars

[QueenKalie]

1 minute ago, Weirdoo said:

Lauren was a white, blonde, Team Blake country singer up against a black R&B guy from a new coach, and her ass still couldn't pull off the win. If anything that was one of the realest results ever 

It was one of the most blatant examples of production manipulation the show has had.   But if you wanna believe the results were real and not manipulated then you do you I guess.