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4 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


I don’t think that’s what she meant. It seems like she believes she was eliminated because she was white. Never mind the fact that all of Team Ari in the top 13 is white. 😂 
 

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Jokes aside, there are people that genuinely don't consider Italian people as white :wacko:

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2 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


That’s interesting, because I don’t know a single person who thinks that. 

It’s a lot less prevalent of a mindset now than it was in the 50s/60s (my grandmother who’s in her 80s dealt a lot more with it than anyone I know younger than her with Italian heritage) but there’s definitely still pockets of it around.

 

Anyway…back to the show.

 

Any guesses for shock predictions this week?

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4 minutes ago, VintageVoice said:

Any guesses for shock predictions this week?

Without song choices and performances (this could change after we get them) ,it wouldnt surprise me if Ryleigh advances next week, but I would expect it to be via the IS.

 

I'll be surprised if she gets PV. (Unless she gets a great song choices, nails it, and others undeperform).

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7 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


That’s interesting, because I don’t know a single person who thinks that. 


I wasn’t joking about my time warp comment. During the wave of immigration during the early 20th century, many WASPs did not consider anyone coming here from Italy or Ireland to be white. NINA (no Irish need apply) was a real thing.

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1 minute ago, AngelaKD said:


I wasn’t joking about my time warp comment. During the wave of immigration during the early 20th century, many WASPs did not consider anyone coming here from Italy or Ireland to be white. NINA (no Irish need apply) was a real thing.

Anti-Catholic sentiment (since Italy and Ireland are both heavily Catholic at least culturally even today) is still present in a lot of places on and off the Internet, but that’s a discussion for another time and place.

 

Still strange to see anti-Italian sentiment pop up on The Voice of all places though.

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41 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

Without song choices and performances (this could change after we get them) ,it wouldnt surprise me if Ryleigh advances next week, but I would expect it to be via the IS.

 

I'll be surprised if she gets PV. (Unless she gets a great song choices, nails it, and others undeperform).

She’s more likely to get PV then A lot of people say. Now with Bella gone Arionators on twitter are pulling for her even more then Holly

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Italians (and Irish) have always been considered white. But there was very serious anti-Catholic bias, and different types of Europeans were considered clean vs unclean. The idea of race vs ethnicity means a lot at various different points in time.

 

(the idea of Jews as white is very much a recent phenomenon, but that’s a different conversation). 

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24 minutes ago, Gustavo527 said:

I envy you


I’ll just say there aren’t an abundant number of people of Italian heritage where I live, and as far as I know, they are considered “white” here. 
 

BTW, Brynn is Italian. Nobody thought she wasn’t white. LOL
 

 

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1 hour ago, VintageVoice said:

It’s a lot less prevalent of a mindset now than it was in the 50s/60s (my grandmother who’s in her 80s dealt a lot more with it than anyone I know younger than her with Italian heritage) but there’s definitely still pockets of it around.

 

Anyway…back to the show.

 

Any guesses for shock predictions this week?


I could see Shadale escaping the B3 since it’s dedication week and we all know she’s capable of delivering another emotional performance. 
 

This in turn could mean that all 3 Team Legend members survive to Top 11 which could be a shock for some 

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34 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


I’ll just say there aren’t an abundant number of people of Italian heritage where I live, and as far as I know, they are considered “white” here. 
 

BTW, Brynn is Italian. Nobody thought she wasn’t white. LOL
 

 

It's just an ongoing joke/meme at this point. Since the whole Fredo fiasco a couple years back all the way to casting Chris Pratt as Mario.

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38 minutes ago, BlueNight13 said:


I could see Shadale escaping the B3 since it’s dedication week and we all know she’s capable of delivering another emotional performance. 
 

This in turn could mean that all 3 Team Legend members survive to Top 11 which could be a shock for some 

Yesss. Literally if she could just recreate her performance of Hurt live, I think she would be safe to move on to next week.

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26 minutes ago, ikwonic said:

Yesss. Literally if she could just recreate her performance of Hurt live, I think she would be safe to move on to next week.

 

14 minutes ago, FloorWax said:

 

If she did that, I think she could surpass Jershika. 


I completely agree with both of these. I think Shadale was just overshadowed with her performance during PO. There wasn’t a lot of “moments” like Jershika created with her song. But I don’t think it’s clear-cut that Shadale is in the bottom this week based on song choices/actual performances 

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As for the discussion of Italian discrimination, I know that there has been a history of discrimination against Catholics in the U.S. (mainly committed by white Protestants). Given that a lot of Italians are Catholic and Catholicism is a big part of Italian culture, that is where discrimination ties in. Nowadays, though, from my awareness, they pretty much are considered and pass as white. Whether they face discrimination to this day is not something I know enough about, but I do know that POC experience discrimination and racism to this day.

 

Source: someone who has taken APUSH relatively recently

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