VintageVoice Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, David68 said: Wasn't Carter Rubin Italian? You wouldn’t know it from the last name, though, and being 14/15 was a big boost for his odds of clicking with Minivan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seak05 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Italians (and Irish) have always been considered white. But there was very serious anti-Catholic bias, and different types of Europeans were considered clean vs unclean. The idea of race vs ethnicity means a lot at various different points in time. (the idea of Jews as white is very much a recent phenomenon, but that’s a different conversation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmm99 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, Misirlou said: I checked up the S20 spoilers thread and turns out @Gmm99 started posting the song choices of semifinals at 5:00 am EST. We got them very early. I'll keep an eye on them tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustavo527 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, TeamAudra said: That’s interesting, because I don’t know a single person who thinks that. I envy you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamAudra Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Gustavo527 said: I envy you I’ll just say there aren’t an abundant number of people of Italian heritage where I live, and as far as I know, they are considered “white” here. BTW, Brynn is Italian. Nobody thought she wasn’t white. LOL Edited November 14, 2021 by TeamAudra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueNight13 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, VintageVoice said: It’s a lot less prevalent of a mindset now than it was in the 50s/60s (my grandmother who’s in her 80s dealt a lot more with it than anyone I know younger than her with Italian heritage) but there’s definitely still pockets of it around. Anyway…back to the show. Any guesses for shock predictions this week? I could see Shadale escaping the B3 since it’s dedication week and we all know she’s capable of delivering another emotional performance. This in turn could mean that all 3 Team Legend members survive to Top 11 which could be a shock for some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorWax Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gustavo527 said: Jokes aside, there are people that genuinely don't consider Italian people as white omg I've seen some Arianators trying to pass Ari off as a POC because she's Italian Edited November 14, 2021 by FloorWax 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone648 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, TeamAudra said: I’ll just say there aren’t an abundant number of people of Italian heritage where I live, and as far as I know, they are considered “white” here. BTW, Brynn is Italian. Nobody thought she wasn’t white. LOL It's just an ongoing joke/meme at this point. Since the whole Fredo fiasco a couple years back all the way to casting Chris Pratt as Mario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikwonic Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 38 minutes ago, BlueNight13 said: I could see Shadale escaping the B3 since it’s dedication week and we all know she’s capable of delivering another emotional performance. This in turn could mean that all 3 Team Legend members survive to Top 11 which could be a shock for some Yesss. Literally if she could just recreate her performance of Hurt live, I think she would be safe to move on to next week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorWax Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, ikwonic said: Yesss. Literally if she could just recreate her performance of Hurt live, I think she would be safe to move on to next week. If she did that, I think she could surpass Jershika. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueNight13 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, ikwonic said: Yesss. Literally if she could just recreate her performance of Hurt live, I think she would be safe to move on to next week. 14 minutes ago, FloorWax said: If she did that, I think she could surpass Jershika. I completely agree with both of these. I think Shadale was just overshadowed with her performance during PO. There wasn’t a lot of “moments” like Jershika created with her song. But I don’t think it’s clear-cut that Shadale is in the bottom this week based on song choices/actual performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anybody354 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) As for the discussion of Italian discrimination, I know that there has been a history of discrimination against Catholics in the U.S. (mainly committed by white Protestants). Given that a lot of Italians are Catholic and Catholicism is a big part of Italian culture, that is where discrimination ties in. Nowadays, though, from my awareness, they pretty much are considered and pass as white. Whether they face discrimination to this day is not something I know enough about, but I do know that POC experience discrimination and racism to this day. Source: someone who has taken APUSH relatively recently Edited November 15, 2021 by Anybody354 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Bautista Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) Girl Named Tom’s latest IG post has this caption: “we've never been this excited for a MONDAY this week went by in the blink of an eye! we've been working overtime on our arrangement for tomorrow night and we are SO READY to share this music with you. also - this week is dedication week! we're looking forward to letting you in on more of our story. it's becoming increasingly apparent how grateful we are for you; the people who surround us with love and music- some since yesterday, and some since day one. take some time today to thank the folks around you who surround you with love & build you up ” Edited November 15, 2021 by Dane Bautista 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misirlou Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Something I realized: Wendy and Shadale are the only ones of the Top 13 whose 4 songs (as of now) have been sung before at some point on the show. All of the others have sung at least one song that hasnt been done before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayshon Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 wait I can see it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bk1234 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, jus.willy said: wait I can see it I think her sister's name is Rhiannon, so this definitely fits. https://www.instagram.com/rhiiannon_plank/?hl=en 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmm99 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) Highlights from Pete Mroz's Artist 2 Artist with Shadale so far... Shadale's song is apparently something that you won't expect from her. Edited November 15, 2021 by Gmm99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorWax Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bk1234 said: I think her sister's name is Rhiannon, so this definitely fits. https://www.instagram.com/rhiiannon_plank/?hl=en Well, it's definitely Rhiannon I guess Not sure about how I feel about her singing that though. If it's the original midtempo version that S15 Team Adam flopped on, I doubt she'd make an impression. Katrina Cain's slowed down version would be better for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misirlou Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) She would benefit from slowing it down, Katrina Cain style. If she is singing like the original, not sure about that. Edited November 15, 2021 by Misirlou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamAudra Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Gmm99 said: Highlights from Pete Mroz's Artist 2 Artist with Shadale so far... Shadale's song is apparently something that you won't expect from her. Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenMae16 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 First bus for Shadale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlyxKyla Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gmm99 said: Highlights from Pete Mroz's Artist 2 Artist with Shadale so far... Shadale's song is apparently something that you won't expect from her. MAYDAY MAYDAY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misirlou Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Rhiannon for Ryleigh and something unexpected for Shadale. These girls just needed the save last week. Come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewPalermo Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Oh come on TPTB, why bus people who aren't even that dangerous to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorWax Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, MatthewPalermo said: Oh come on TPTB, why bus people who aren't even that dangerous to begin with? Tbh I feel like Ryleigh actually wants to sing Rhiannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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