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1 hour ago, Rodney said:

All right.  Based on the promos we've seen, there've been nine pairings (partially or fully) previewed:

 

Girl Named Tom vs. Holly Forbes (Team Kelly)

Gymani vs. Kinsey Rose (Team Kelly)

Jershika Maple vs. Paris Winningham (Team Legend)

Joshua Vacanti vs. Sabrina Dias (Team Legend)

Bella DeNapoli vs. Katherine Ann Mohler (Team Ariana)

Jim & Sasha Allen vs. Manny Keith (Team Ariana)

Katie Rae vs. Raquel Trinidad (Team Ariana)

Hailey Green vs. LiBianca (Team Blake)

Jonathan Mouton vs. Wendy Moten (Team Blake)

 

. . . But because Brittany Bree vs. Samuel Harness has to be the first steal Battle shown, that would make ten pairings.  So one of these other nine pairings has to be saved for next week, since they can only show us nine this week.

 

And based on the fact that we've seen two of the steal Knockouts previewed (Girl Named Tom vs. Holly and Jershika vs. Paris), and the fact that we know that another one has to be on Monday (Brittany vs. Samuel), that would leave the last steal Knockout, David vs. Ryleigh, for next week, definitely as the closing matchup for this round.

i'm guessing jim vs manny

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23 minutes ago, thevoiceisthetop said:

i'm guessing jim vs manny

As the montage? Yeah, i love Jeremy, but between him, Hailey and Lana, i would prefer him to be the montage (Please don't kill me).

 

I honestly wouldn't mind if Peedy is montaged but that would imply montaging the Make A Wish kid three times. That would be a VERY bad look for the show, not to mention it would be right down cruel and disgusting.

 

Why someone have to be montaged? I have never suffered this much for a Knockout montage until now 😭

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If we're talking montage options, the pairs that didn't end in a steal, haven't been shown yet in KO promos, and whose winners haven't been montaged are:

 

Lana/Carson

Jeremy/Xavier

Peedy/Berritt

Hailey/TCS

 

The montage is coming from one of these four pairings.

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So I did a little check, and it turns out that throughout the seasons, all the winners of a battle that featured a steal have been shown in full on the KOs.The montages have either been the winners of a non steal battle, or steals that lost theirs.

 

Jeremy fits the first description, so I'm lowkey starting to think he could be safe.

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35 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

So I did a little check, and it turns out that throughout the seasons, all the winners of a battle that featured a steal have been shown in full on the KOs.The montages have either been the winners of a non steal battle, or steals that lost theirs.

 

Jeremy fits the first description, so I'm lowkey starting to think he could be safe.


Honestly, I think you’re overthinking it. The total number of KO montages gives us a small sample size. I doubt they have a formula that matches what you laid out. It’s probably just a coincidence that “all winners of battles that featured a steal have been shown in full in the KO.” Seriously, why would that be a priority?

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9 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


Honestly, I think you’re overthinking it. The total number of KO montages gives us a small sample size. I doubt they have a formula that matches what you laid out. It’s probably just a coincidence that “all winners of battles that featured a steal have been shown in full in the KO.” Seriously, why would that be a priority?

You're probably right. It might just be me trying to take a guess since there are no real factors to give us hints for the KO montage.

 

Unless one or more out of the 4 pairings in danger gets shown this week, we'll still have that doubt until the next one.

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1 hour ago, Gustavo527 said:

As the montage? Yeah, i love Jeremy, but between him, Hailey and Lana, i would prefer him to be the montage (Please don't kill me).

 

I honestly wouldn't mind if Peedy is montaged but that would imply montaging the Make A Wish kid three times. That would be a VERY bad look for the show, not to mention it would be right down cruel and disgusting.

 

Why someone have to be montaged? I have never suffered this much for a Knockout montage until now 😭

oh no i meant next week

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7 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

You're probably right. It might just be me trying to take a guess since there are no real factors to give us hints for the KO montage.

 

Unless one or more out of the 4 pairings in danger gets shown this week, we'll still have that doubt until the next one.


For the longest time, it was assumed that double montages were guaranteed to be triple montaged until Lauren Duski’s KO partner avoided that distinction. It was also assumed that battle steals were safe, because they want to show them working with the new coach. I don’t recall who it was, but they did montage a battle steal several seasons ago. I think they just look at the what they have on film,  and make a decision without considering what they’ve done in the past. 

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3 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


For the longest time, it was assumed that double montages were guaranteed to be triple montaged until Lauren Duski’s KO partner avoided that distinction. It was also assumed that battle steals were safe, because they want to show them working with the new coach. I don’t recall who it was, but they did montage a battle steal several seasons ago. I think they just look at the what they have on film,  and make a decision without considering what they’ve done in the past. 

We wouldnt even have this conversation if they just showed all the damn pairings, but its the way it is I guess. S8 and S15 were the exceptions, but because they both had a three way KO due to a contestant boycotting.

 

If I'm being honest, I don't see the triple montage returning. Y'all can laugh but I just don't see it. I might be mighty wrong and they could bring it back, but for now I'll stick to that.

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12 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

We wouldnt even have this conversation if they just showed all the damn pairings, but its the way it is I guess. S8 and S15 were the exceptions, but because they both had a three way KO due to a contestant boycotting.

 

If I'm being honest, I don't see the triple montage returning. Y'all can laugh but I just don't see it. I might be mighty wrong and they could bring it back, but for now I'll stick to that.


In many seasons we’ve had feedback on the KO performances, and the montages made sense. They were likely either bad performances or just something that didn’t make for a better TV show? The biggest mystery is Matt McAndrew. However, we never got feedback on the KO. Maybe he just wasn’t very good that week. 

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10 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


In many seasons we’ve had feedback on the KO performances, and the montages made sense. They were likely either bad performances or just something that didn’t make for a better TV show? The biggest mystery is Matt McAndrew. However, we never got feedback on the KO. Maybe he just wasn’t very good that week. 

Yeah, we pretty much don't have Taping 3 feedback, so no clue how its gonna go down. We knew Joseph/Van and Jose/Raine were going to be the montages these last two seasons due to the poor feedback they recieved. This season we don't know.

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9 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

Yeah, we pretty much don't have Taping 3 feedback, so no clue how its gonna go down. We knew Joseph/Van and Jose/Raine were going to be the montages these last two seasons due to the poor feedback they recieved. This season we don't know.


Honestly, the possibility of Berritt being triple montaged seems like a strong possibility. I’m not making a prediction here, but I don’t think anyone would be shocked by it. 

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57 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


For the longest time, it was assumed that double montages were guaranteed to be triple montaged until Lauren Duski’s KO partner avoided that distinction. It was also assumed that battle steals were safe, because they want to show them working with the new coach. I don’t recall who it was, but they did montage a battle steal several seasons ago. I think they just look at the what they have on film,  and make a decision without considering what they’ve done in the past. 


For the longest time would have been S3 when Lauren Allred’s first appearance was in the KOs.

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15 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


Honestly, the possibility of Berritt being triple montaged seems like a strong possibility. I’m not making a prediction here, but I don’t think anyone would be shocked by it. 

Like I said, I personally don't see the triplw montage happening so far, but at the same time, in a way, it wouldnt surprise me if it does happen.

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4 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

Like I said, I personally don't see the triplw montage happening so far, but at the same time, in a way, it wouldnt surprise me if it does happen.


I’m not going to predict, because TPTB is too unpredictable, but what is your reason for not seeing a triple montage? Just curious. 

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8 minutes ago, AngelaKD said:


For the longest time would have been S3 when Lauren Allred’s first appearance was in the KOs.


If it wasn’t for Lauren Duski, I think the streak would have lasted longer, because Andrea T’s KO was certainly montage worthy, IMO. 

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12 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


I’m not going to predict, because TPTB is too unpredictable, but what is your reason for not seeing a triple montage? Just curious. 

Frankly, I dont really have a good reasoning for it, call it optimism because I do want to see Peedy and Jeremy's performances in full instead of just one.

 

At the same time, its tricky because we have two double montage contestants that made it to KOs this season. When it came to triple montaging someone, there was just one clear victim in those seasons , just one double montage contestant that made it to KOs. And its been a while, literally 11 seasons since they pulled that off, so it would be weird, but as you say, TPTB is unpredictable, so we don't know.

 

Since we have both Xavier and Berritt as double montages, TPTB could either give them a break and show both of their last performances in full or just pick the one they care about the least out of Peedy and Jeremy and throw them in the montage, since we all know a montaged KO is a hindrage for lives.

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16 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

Frankly, I dont really have a good reasoning for it, call it optimism because I do want to see Peedy and Jeremy's performances in full instead of just one.

 

At the same time, its tricky because we have two double montage contestants that made it to KOs this season. When it came to triple montaging someone, there was just one clear victim in those seasons , just one double montage contestant that made it to KOs. And its been a while, literally 11 seasons since they pulled that off, so it would be weird, but as you say, TPTB is unpredictable, so we don't know.

 

Since we have both Xavier and Berritt as double montages, TPTB could either give them a break and show both of their last performances in full or just pick the one they care about the least out of Peedy and Jeremy and throw them in the montage, since we all know a montaged KO is a hindrage for lives.


They could just show Peedy’s and Jeremy’s performances and montage their opponents. Who knows? Anyway, I think the fact that there are two of them makes it more likely. They are also bleeding viewers, so I think that’s a consideration as well, when deciding who to deliver a likely death blow to. 

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29 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

When it came to triple montaging someone, there was just one clear victim in those seasons , just one double montage contestant that made it to KOs.

Season seven actually had two.  But one was shown for his first and only time in the Knockouts, while the other got the triple montage.

 

I can see the same thing happening to Berritt and Xavier.  One could get aired in full, while the other gets the triple montage.  Or they'll be thrown a bone, and both will be aired, and someone else will be sacrificed instead.  But I wager that the former possibility will happen.

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Yeah I don't think a triple montage is likely tbh. After the whole Rebekah Samarin rant they haven't done it again (or at least after Katherine Ho) and it's just completely disgusting that contestants who had three performances get 0 shown in the end. I'm sure TPTB takes that into account. Do I personally want to see Peedy vs Berrit or Jeremy vs Xaver full? Not really, I think those are the two pairings I'm frankly the least interested in. However, I can't see them being montaged rn. 

 

Also this will probs be overthinking but would they montage a battle save? I'm not exactly sold on Lana being montaged either tbh. That leaves only one option that I'm not completely sold on either ngl

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Just now, TheVoiceFan2 said:

Also this will probs be overthinking but would they montage a battle save? I'm not exactly sold on Lana being montaged either tbh. That leaves only one option that I'm not completely sold on either ngl

They've montaged steals before (Jordyn Simone and Joseph Soul), so I wouldn't put it past them to montage a save, as well.  Yet at the same time, I think that those chances are pretty remote.

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16 minutes ago, Rodney said:

Season seven actually had two.  But one was shown for his first and only time in the Knockouts, while the other got the triple montage.

 

I can see the same thing happening to Berritt and Xavier.  One could get aired in full, while the other gets the triple montage.  Or they'll be thrown a bone, and both will be aired, and someone else will be sacrificed instead.  But I wager that the former possibility will happen.

who i know rebekah samarin

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2 minutes ago, Rodney said:

They've montaged steals before (Jordyn Simone and Joseph Soul), so I wouldn't put it past them to montage a save, as well.  Yet at the same time, I think that those chances are pretty remote.

Yeah, I think steals aren't that unlikely (which is why I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if Hailey M ends up getting the montage). But saves are another thing I believe. Especially a Blake KO, where Blake hasn't had a knockout montage in a veryyyyyy long time I believe. 

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