American Idol General Discussion

[KelseyW]

No it's not life or musical death.

 

But pop culture relevance is at stake!

 

Anyway...

 

 

[TeamAudra]

57 minutes ago, KelseyW said:

No it's not life or musical death.

 

But pop culture relevance is at stake!

 

Anyway...

 

 

Nothing is “at stake.”  It’s a TV show with dwindling ratings. It doesn’t affect our lives one way or another, unless we let it. 

[KelseyW]

7 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:

Nothing is “at stake.”  It’s a TV show with dwindling ratings. It doesn’t affect our lives one way or another, unless we let it. 

I was joking...

 

It's a 22 year old TV talent show with no Emmy wins I get it!

[Gustavo527]

1 hour ago, KelseyW said:

I was joking...

 

It's a 22 year old TV talent show with no Emmy wins I get it!

Wait...American Idol has no Emmys?? What?? 

 

Even The Voice has Emmys. 

Edited June 21, 2024 by Gustavo527

[KelseyW]

11 minutes ago, Gustavo527 said:

Wait...American Idol has no Emmys?? What?? 

 

Even The Voice has Emmys. 

Always nominated. Lol

 

Not even Seacrest has one for best host!!

[AngelaKD]

15 minutes ago, Gustavo527 said:

Wait...American Idol has no Emmys?? What?? 

 

Even The Voice has Emmys. 

Emmys are given based on how the show looks and sounds on the screen. They don’t give out Emmys based on how the contestants sing, lol.

 

If they haven’t changed the process, the producers pick ONE episode to represent the whole season and that’s what they get judged on. 
 

This issue used to come up when I still was a fan of a certain soap. Some producers just knew how to pick the right episode that would appeal to the voting members.

 

Edited June 21, 2024 by AngelaKD

[Gustavo527]

2 hours ago, AngelaKD said:

Emmys are given based on how the show looks and sounds on the screen. They don’t give out Emmys based on how the contestants sing, lol.

 

If they haven’t changed the process, the producers pick ONE episode to represent the whole season and that’s what they get judged on. 
 

This issue used to come up when I still was a fan of a certain soap. Some producers just knew how to pick the right episode that would appeal to the voting members.

 

Thanks. I consider those awards kind of overrated anyway. Like, yeah, they are important, but we know the voting members can have certain biases. 

[Gustavo527]

3 hours ago, AngelaKD said:

 

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Edited June 21, 2024 by Gustavo527

[QueenKalie]

Before The Voice got cheap and really cut back on production costs they were definitely the better produced show so it makes sense I guess. 

[wildestinvegas]

kinda random but i've been a chappell roan stan ever since i came across pink pony club mid-pandemic in 2020 when she was a nobody so i'm over the moon with her smashing like she's currently doing right now (8 songs charting on spotify US, good luck babe about to become a top 10 hit on spotify global!!!!) bc i always thought she was something special even when she only had 2 songs out. i feel like that's my non-idol version of what it would feel like to have an idol contestant blowing up 

Edited June 23, 2024 by wildestinvegas

[keychange]

1 hour ago, wildestinvegas said:

kinda random but i've been a chappell roan stan ever since i came across pink pony club mid-pandemic in 2020 when she was a nobody so i'm over the moon with her smashing like she's currently doing right now (8 songs charting on spotify US, good luck babe about to become a top 10 hit on spotify global!!!!) bc i always thought she was something special even when she only had 2 songs out. i feel like that's my non-idol version of what it would feel like to have an idol contestant blowing up 

i discovered her last Fall and her rise has been insaneeee to watch. i was barricade for her set during Gov Ball and it felt like witnessing music history tbh.

 

i actually think she would be a good model for a LGBTQ+ contestant to win Idol. if you take away the overly sexual lyrics, she has enough southern sensibilities and "girl next door" appeal, which is also a reason why she has been able to achieve such mainstream success.

[nytsch]

2 hours ago, wildestinvegas said:

kinda random but i've been a chappell roan stan ever since i came across pink pony club mid-pandemic in 2020 when she was a nobody so i'm over the moon with her smashing like she's currently doing right now (8 songs charting on spotify US, good luck babe about to become a top 10 hit on spotify global!!!!) bc i always thought she was something special even when she only had 2 songs out. i feel like that's my non-idol version of what it would feel like to have an idol contestant blowing up 

Maybe it’s just social media being an echo chamber as usual but the number of memes I’ve seen about her in the last few weeks has grown exponentially lol

[nytsch]

I will also claim to have liked Chappell Roan before she was famous even though I only heard Hot to Go at the beginning of this year lol (this is my last off topic post I promise)

[TeamAudra]

1 hour ago, m1key said:

i discovered her last Fall and her rise has been insaneeee to watch. i was barricade for her set during Gov Ball and it felt like witnessing music history tbh.

 

i actually think she would be a good model for a LGBTQ+ contestant to win Idol. if you take away the overly sexual lyrics, she has enough southern sensibilities and "girl next door" appeal, which is also a reason why she has been able to achieve such mainstream success.

Wait a minute…I had never heard of her, but I just looked at her IG, and LOL’d that you think she has “girl next door” appeal that would play with the Idol audience. 

[keychange]

Just now, TeamAudra said:

Wait a minute…I had never heard of her, but I just looked at her IG, and LOL’d that you think she has “girl next door” appeal that would play with the Idol audience. 

i mean yes, at a first glance her image obviously does not give "girl next door" vibes lol. however, a large part of her artistry and marketing revolves around her being just a regular girl who grew up in the Midwest (the album is titled "The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess"). a lot of her music also has folk/country undertones. it's really refreshing since so many of todays pop stars are either nepo babies/industry plants/former child stars. 

 

even then, i wouldn't rule out the image aspect though since Asher Havon just won The Voice and we saw Ada Vox get Top 10 as a drag queen on Season 16. my point was though that she could be used as a reference point for a LGBTQ+ contestant to do well - pimping them as someone isolated for their identity in a rural midwest/southern town (which was sorta how Jeremiah was packaged in S17 and he made Top 6). 

[QueenKalie]

21 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:

Wait a minute…I had never heard of her, but I just looked at her IG, and LOL’d that you think she has “girl next door” appeal that would play with the Idol audience. 

I know who she is and I can confirm she's definitely not minivan van friendly.

Edited June 23, 2024 by QueenKalie

[keychange]

17 minutes ago, QueenKalie said:

I know who she is and I can confirm she's definitely not minivan van friendly.

again, thats not the point i was making at all lol. obviously a lesbian drag queen who writes music about that is about as far from minivan friendly that you can get  my point was solely about her background and upbringing with her being a lesbian raised in a conservative area from the rural midwest. 

[StarWalker1]

speaking of chappell ... she's got huge potential to be someone legendary

 

 

[wildestinvegas]

1 hour ago, StarWalker1 said:

speaking of chappell ... she's got huge potential to be someone legendary

 

 

she’s snatching that best new artist award at the grammys next year. a superstar in the making for sure. atlantic records is looking like boo boo the fool for dropping her back in 2020 lmaoooo

Edited June 24, 2024 by wildestinvegas

[KelseyW]

1 hour ago, StarWalker1 said:

speaking of chappell ... she's got huge potential to be someone legendary

 

 

Is she pop?

 

Looks are giving Gaga.  

[Gustavo527]

8 hours ago, m1key said:

i mean yes, at a first glance her image obviously does not give "girl next door" vibes lol. however, a large part of her artistry and marketing revolves around her being just a regular girl who grew up in the Midwest (the album is titled "The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess"). a lot of her music also has folk/country undertones. it's really refreshing since so many of todays pop stars are either nepo babies/industry plants/former child stars. 

 

even then, i wouldn't rule out the image aspect though since Asher Havon just won The Voice and we saw Ada Vox get Top 10 as a drag queen on Season 16. my point was though that she could be used as a reference point for a LGBTQ+ contestant to do well - pimping them as someone isolated for their identity in a rural midwest/southern town (which was sorta how Jeremiah was packaged in S17 and he made Top 6). 

Jeremiah should have won the whole season. Him being eliminated at Top 6 was homophobic.

Edited June 24, 2024 by Gustavo527

[MalwareDie]

1 minute ago, Gustavo527 said:

Jeremiah should have won the whole season. Him being eliminated at Top 6 was homophobic.

 

I think constantly highlighting how Jeremiah's father didn't accept him helped the viewing audience of southern middle-aged women also make the decision to not want to vote for him. It has never been good for a contestant on American Idol to be open about their sexuality on their show.

[Gustavo527]

8 minutes ago, MalwareDie said:

 

I think constantly highlighting how Jeremiah's father didn't accept him helped the viewing audience of southern middle-aged women also make the decision to not want to vote for him. It has never been good for a contestant on American Idol to be open about their sexuality on their show.

Yeah, if the producers start making so much emphasis on the queerness of a contestant, that is gonna make that contestant to lose votes. Because... guess what?? Minivan is homophobic and transphobic, who knew lol. I assume Just Sam could win because there was not a lot of emphasis on their queerness. As far as i know, someone said that it was mentioned once and never again.

Edited June 24, 2024 by Gustavo527

[KelseyW]

5 hours ago, StarWalker1 said:

speaking of chappell ... she's got huge potential to be someone legendary

 

 

Meh. 

 

She's good. And much like Gaga... (who I at first was scared of lol)

 

Just sounds whiney. Sorry. 

 

I have to give her props for the set, her outfits, and the overall 1980s vibe. 

 

Oh. And for not being Swift. Who is from PA sadly. But never was truly a country star but a pop star! Duh. Lol

 

Ahem.

 

Idk. I haven't found good music outside of American Idol singers. In eons. 

 

Someone commented on the video it was like teenagers discovering Elvis for the first time. 

 

I'm like. K. Did we watch the same performance?

 

Idk. I would rather watch Abi sing.

 

But thats mainly because she's the pop star in the making AI has wanted since ABC bought the rights in 2017.

 

Big talk?

 

Maybe. I just see so much potential in Abi!! Thar and her voice doesn't sound like others I follow. It's unique.

 

This upcoming concert better sellout. I am nervous for the numbers.

 

Anyway. It takes a lot to impress me ok? I have seem so many pop stars in my teenager years till now.

 

Only a handful of them I still follow and care about. 

 

Rant over.  

 

 

Edited June 24, 2024 by KelseyW

[QueenKalie]

5 minutes ago, KelseyW said:

Meh. 

 

She's good. And much like Gaga... (who I at first was scared of lol)

 

Just sounds whiney. Sorry. 

 

I have to give her props for the set, her outfits, and the overall 1980s vibe. 

 

Oh. And for not being Swift. Who is from PA sadly. But never was truly a country star but a pop star! Duh. Lol

 

Ahem.

 

Idk. I haven't found good music outside of American Idol singers. In eons. 

 

Someone commented on the video it was like teenagers discovering Elvis for the first time. 

 

I'm like. K. Did we watch the same performance?

 

Idk. I would rather watch Abi sing.

 

But thats mainly because she's the pop star in the making AI has wanted since ABC bought the rights in 2017.

 

Big talk?

 

Maybe. I just see so much potential in Abi!! Thar and her voice doesn't sound like others I follow. It's unique.

 

This upcoming concert better sellout. I am nervous for the numbers.

 

Anyway. It takes a lot to impress me ok? I have seem so many pop stars in my teenager years till now.

 

Only a handful of them I still follow and care about. 

 

Rant over.  

 

 

This is just so much yikes all wrapped up into one post.