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1 minute ago, Daillon said:

They should stay away from bringing Voice alumni as coaches, but if they had too I would suggest Melanie Martinez. She has had actual success, and even if I don’t think she would be a good coach (or TV personality), I feel like she would attract interesting talent to audition.

Mel is probably the most popular alumni with the younger audience and would bring a lot of unique talent but she seems to want to stay away from the show as much as possible, like you said, they should stay away from bringing Voice alumni

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I see that Minivan has found Idolforums!

I, wow, the number of people on here arguing that the reason in 19 seasons of the voice we have not had a single Black female winner (that had darker skin - this is known as colorism) is because none

what are you on about lmao

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1 minute ago, thevoicefan12 said:

Even though it could be great for promotional reasons, having a Voice alumni and 3 superstars like antikid said, I would rather choose the superstar which could be a challenge to whoever the coach is, but I wouldn’t mind Cassadee. 

Adding on it actually might be good for the coach because it might boost the artists popularity more if they were actually a coach. 

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As irritating as Minivan’s Blake-love-fest can be at times, he does have a pretty good ear for what the audience will connect with beyond just country (as evidenced by the fact that he’s turned for all but two of the winners even if they didn’t join his team) and the fact that he does seem to genuinely care about his artists beyond the show is a big plus in his favor. At this point, if Blake or Carson leave they might as well just cancel production - it wouldn’t feel the same without him.

 

If we keep Blake as the stable force on the panel, he needs an extrovert who can play off his dryer sense of humor to make for good jokes/skits/shenanigans; enter Kelly, who’s a natural chatterbox but who is better-versed than Blake at the technical aspects of singing (given her classical training background) and has dabbled in different genres which can appeal to artists that are primarily pop/country/soul but don’t define themselves one way exclusively. It’s also a way for her to “give back” to other artists looking to boost their music careers.

 

With the two extroverts on the panel (Kelly, obviously, and Blake is an extrovert in the sense he feeds off the energy of being around other people but he isn’t as loud as people presume extroverts will be), someone who’s more “zen” and introspective with a lot of technical knowledge about singing who also isn’t country-adjacent brings some balance to the panel. Examples of judges that have filled this role are Usher (to some extent, though he’s more of an extrovert than the others in this list), Pharrell, Alicia, and most recently John.

 

Lastly, someone who’s less strictly in a country/R&B lane that can lean either introverted or extroverted as needed and understands the showmanship aspect of being an artist rounds out the panel. As much as people rag on Gwen for being image-focused, the fact she’s known as a fashion icon and has maintained a career spanning 30+ years means she’s a good filler for this role; last season, Nick was the closest of the four this role since he made a successful transition from Disney-wholesomeness-teenybopper to 20-something who’s stuff is still fairly clean but feels more mature. Other examples in this role: Shakira, Adam (in his last three seasons), and Miley.

 

Not every judge we fit is going to fit in the non-Blake roles, but if we have a panel that has those sorts of balances then the chemistry tends to be decent and there tends to be a coach’s team fits different viewers’ interests.

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15 minutes ago, VintageVoice said:

As irritating as Minivan’s Blake-love-fest can be at times, he does have a pretty good ear for what the audience will connect with beyond just country (as evidenced by the fact that he’s turned for all but two of the winners even if they didn’t join his team) and the fact that he does seem to genuinely care about his artists beyond the show is a big plus in his favor. At this point, if Blake or Carson leave they might as well just cancel production - it wouldn’t feel the same without him.

 

If we keep Blake as the stable force on the panel, he needs an extrovert who can play off his dryer sense of humor to make for good jokes/skits/shenanigans; enter Kelly, who’s a natural chatterbox but who is better-versed than Blake at the technical aspects of singing (given her classical training background) and has dabbled in different genres which can appeal to artists that are primarily pop/country/soul but don’t define themselves one way exclusively. It’s also a way for her to “give back” to other artists looking to boost their music careers.

 

With the two extroverts on the panel (Kelly, obviously, and Blake is an extrovert in the sense he feeds off the energy of being around other people but he isn’t as loud as people presume extroverts will be), someone who’s more “zen” and introspective with a lot of technical knowledge about singing who also isn’t country-adjacent brings some balance to the panel. Examples of judges that have filled this role are Usher (to some extent, though he’s more of an extrovert than the others in this list), Pharrell, Alicia, and most recently John.

 

Lastly, someone who’s less strictly in a country/R&B lane that can lean either introverted or extroverted as needed and understands the showmanship aspect of being an artist rounds out the panel. As much as people rag on Gwen for being image-focused, the fact she’s known as a fashion icon and has maintained a career spanning 30+ years means she’s a good filler for this role; last season, Nick was the closest of the four this role since he made a successful transition from Disney-wholesomeness-teenybopper to 20-something who’s stuff is still fairly clean but feels more mature. Other examples in this role: Shakira, Adam (in his last three seasons), and Miley.

 

Not every judge we fit is going to fit in the non-Blake roles, but if we have a panel that has those sorts of balances then the chemistry tends to be decent and there tends to be a coach’s team fits different viewers’ interests.

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10 hours ago, thevoicefan12 said:

The thing with that is Adam didn't get in the finale 3 seasons straight, he didn't even get no one in semifinals, and with the added hate he got and the changes the show made, plus him wanting to be a stay at home dad, I don't blame him for leaving.

And I don't think he's coming back, either, for one thing I only came to notice a few weeks ago, but haven't voiced here yet.

 

I'm hopefully not the only one who has noticed that not a single one of his songs have been covered since he left.  Not a song by Maroon 5, and not a song he did as a featured artist for someone else.  I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled all rights for anyone to do his songs.  If that's the case, he's definitely not coming back.

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14 minutes ago, Rodney said:

And I don't think he's coming back, either, for one thing I only came to notice a few weeks ago, but haven't voiced here yet.

 

I'm hopefully not the only one who has noticed that not a single one of his songs have been covered since he left.  Not a song by Maroon 5, and not a song he did as a featured artist for someone else.  I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled all rights for anyone to do a songs.  If that's the case, he's definitely not coming back.

I mean, once Kelly entered the picture and gave Blake more of a challenge in 2-3 seasons than Adam did in his entire run, it was clear that he was just an afterthought at that point, and it stayed that way for his last three seasons. She became his new rival and he was no longer needed. The robe fiasco was just the final straw.

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1 hour ago, Rodney said:

And I don't think he's coming back, either, for one thing I only came to notice a few weeks ago, but haven't voiced here yet.

 

I'm hopefully not the only one who has noticed that not a single one of his songs have been covered since he left.  Not a song by Maroon 5, and not a song he did as a featured artist for someone else.  I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled all rights for anyone to do his songs.  If that's the case, he's definitely not coming back.


I wouldn’t read to much into the lack of covers. Adam’s songs were never really chosen very frequently. What I found most telling was that  he wasn’t asked to perform at all last season, despite having a huge hit (Memories).

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Well I'm new here! On the s20, I think John will leave and Gwen too. John because of the son who falls to be born. I would already discard alicia because of her new album and Jhud too.On the s20, I think John will leave and Gwen too. John because of the son who falls to be born. I would already discard alicia because of her new album and Jhud too. Nick fNick was hated for a good part From the public. I would not rule out the departure of the blake of this next season and the arrival of Kane Brown and about an R&B artist remains to be seen. Will.i.an would be a great choice even the aforementioned lizzo. But I find it very difficult, I would like to see Jessie J or even Fergie on the bench, used and used Miguel . 

 

Kane / Jessie J / Kelly / miguel

Blake / Kelly / lizzo / Fergie 

 

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15 minutes ago, Dom said:

Well I'm new here! On the s20, I think John will leave and Gwen too. John because of the son who falls to be born. I would already discard alicia because of her new album and Jhud too.On the s20, I think John will leave and Gwen too. John because of the son who falls to be born. I would already discard alicia because of her new album and Jhud too. Nick fNick was hated for a good part From the public. I would not rule out the departure of the blake of this next season and the arrival of Kane Brown and about an R&B artist remains to be seen. Will.i.an would be a great choice even the aforementioned lizzo. But I find it very difficult, I would like to see Jessie J or even Fergie on the bench, used and used Miguel . 

 

Kane / Jessie J / Kelly / miguel

Blake / Kelly / lizzo / Fergie 

 

Lol sad to say, but none of these will ever happen 

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19 minutes ago, Dom said:

Well I'm new here! On the s20, I think John will leave and Gwen too. John because of the son who falls to be born. I would already discard alicia because of her new album and Jhud too.On the s20, I think John will leave and Gwen too. John because of the son who falls to be born. I would already discard alicia because of her new album and Jhud too. Nick fNick was hated for a good part From the public. I would not rule out the departure of the blake of this next season and the arrival of Kane Brown and about an R&B artist remains to be seen. Will.i.an would be a great choice even the aforementioned lizzo. But I find it very difficult, I would like to see Jessie J or even Fergie on the bench, used and used Miguel . 

 

Kane / Jessie J / Kelly / miguel

Blake / Kelly / lizzo / Fergie 

 


I highly doubt Blake gives up 25-30 million per year, but if that happens, I will finally tune out, and I won’t be the only one. 

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5 hours ago, Dom said:

Well I'm new here! On the s20, I think John will leave and Gwen too. John because of the son who falls to be born. I would already discard alicia because of her new album and Jhud too.On the s20, I think John will leave and Gwen too. John because of the son who falls to be born. I would already discard alicia because of her new album and Jhud too. Nick fNick was hated for a good part From the public. I would not rule out the departure of the blake of this next season and the arrival of Kane Brown and about an R&B artist remains to be seen. Will.i.an would be a great choice even the aforementioned lizzo. But I find it very difficult, I would like to see Jessie J or even Fergie on the bench, used and used Miguel . 

 

Kane / Jessie J / Kelly / miguel

Blake / Kelly / lizzo / Fergie 

 

If Blake's gone I'm out

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5 hours ago, TeamAudra said:


I highly doubt Blake gives up 25-30 million per year, but if that happens, I will finally tune out, and I won’t be the only one. 

 

1 hour ago, Zainab Tufail said:

If Blake's gone I'm out

Really?  I'll actually enjoy the show more if he goes, if only because "Team Minivan" goes with him, and we can see other genres get their fair shake on the show again.

 

I actually kind of feel sorry for you both if you're really basing your viewership on him being there.  He's not the be-all, end-all of the show, no matter how much everyone tries to make it seem like he is.

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7 minutes ago, Rodney said:

 

Really?  I'll actually enjoy the show more if he goes, if only because "Team Minivan" goes with him, and we can see other genres get their fair shake on the show again.

 

I actually kind of feel sorry for you both if you're really basing your viewership on him being there.  He's not the be-all, end-all of the show, no matter how much everyone tries to make it seem like he is.

I wouldn't stop watching even though I like Blake. I think he's a great coach and actually brings a lot to the show. It definitely wouldn't feel the same. Also I don't want him to leave because the show would last only a season or two without him before being cancelled

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1 hour ago, Rodney said:

 

Really?  I'll actually enjoy the show more if he goes, if only because "Team Minivan" goes with him, and we can see other genres get their fair shake on the show again.

 

I actually kind of feel sorry for you both if you're really basing your viewership on him being there.  He's not the be-all, end-all of the show, no matter how much everyone tries to make it seem like he is.


Team Minivan is the majority of the audience. How much longer do you think the show would stay on the air if they stopped watching? 
 

Now, if they could find a suitable replacement, not named Kane Brown, perhaps it’s salvageable, but I honestly don’t know who that would be. 

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1 hour ago, Rodney said:

 

Really?  I'll actually enjoy the show more if he goes, if only because "Team Minivan" goes with him, and we can see other genres get their fair shake on the show again. 

We have seen other genres get their fair shake on the show as well. We also have winners of genres like Pop, Reggage, R&B Soul, Rock, Gospel and Folk.

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7 minutes ago, Zainab Tufail said:

We have seen other genres get their fair shake on the show as well. We also have winners of genres like Pop, Reggage, R&B Soul, Rock, Gospel and Folk.

It isn't all about the winner though. There were many more country finalists than any other genre. For some we can definitely unanimously agree that weren't deserved at all

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1 hour ago, antikid said:

It isn't all about the winner though. There were many more country finalists than any other genre. For some we can definitely unanimously agree that weren't deserved at all

If you include all the 3/4/5 finalists from s1-18 then there are 69 Finalists and If you exclude winners then there are 51 Finalists (3 from seasons 7-17 and season 1-2, 2 from seasons 3-6, 4 from s18). So out of the 51 finalists only 12 were country S1= None, S2 = None, S3 = None, S4 = The Swon Bros, S5 = None, S6 = Jake Worthington, S7 = None, S8 = None, S9 = Barret Baber + Emily Ann Roberts, S10 = Adam Wakefield, S11 = Josh Gallagher, S12 = Lauren Duski, S13 = Red Marlowe, S14 = None, S15 = Kirk Jay, S16 = Gyth Rigdon + Dexter Roberts + Andrew Sevener, S17 = None, S18 = None

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The people who think some Country winners/Contestants weren't deserving are the ones who aren't in love with that genre. I think all were deserving why? cz I like country so Much the people who aren't diehard country fans like majority of the IDF don't think they are deserving. Country singers don't need to have big voices to get the title of DESERVING, As it is said Be The Beat Whatever You Are so greatness never likes in reaching high elevated rank greatness lies in doing constant hard work and giving your best whatever your position might be. In case of county singers if they can't hit some high notes then there is no need for them to do that they should stay in their lane and sing it with their heart and just sing it pleasently and beautifuly and it would still be amazing.

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5 minutes ago, Zainab Tufail said:

The people who think some Country winners/Contestants weren't deserving are the ones who aren't in love with that genre. I think all were deserving why? cz I like country so Much the people who aren't diehard country fans like majority of the IDF don't think they are deserving. Country singers don't need to have big voices to get the title of DESERVING

 

Don't get me wrong. I love country music, it is what my father listens to every time, and as I grew older, I listen to it more and more. And I have loved country singers on the show before (Todd Tilghman-ish being the most recent one). But for me, we are talking about MEDIOCRE country singers here, they just sound the SAME (for example is Craig on S7). You've gotta be honest, there are really UNDESERVING finalists before, that is not going out of their comfort zone, that are only brought because of Team Minivan. Lemme give you an example, in Season 16, isn't it overwhelming that most of the finalists were country singers? Like the hell? Where's the diversity? Also, likes of Andrew Sevener, Josh Gallagher, and many more. 

 

But just to be clear, only Craig Wayne Boyd is the country winner of The Voice that is so undeserving, the others were deserving. I am talking about the FINALISTS.

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14 minutes ago, Zainab Tufail said:

The people who think some Country winners/Contestants weren't deserving are the ones who aren't in love with that genre. I think all were deserving why? cz I like country so Much the people who aren't diehard country fans like majority of the IDF don't think they are deserving. Country singers don't need to have big voices to get the title of DESERVING

 

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22 minutes ago, Zainab Tufail said:

If you include all the 3/4/5 finalists from s1-18 then there are 69 Finalists and If you exclude winners then there are 51 Finalists (3 from seasons 7-17 and season 1-2, 2 from seasons 3-6, 4 from s18). So out of the 51 finalists only 12 were country S1= None, S2 = None, S3 = None, S4 = The Swon Bros, S5 = None, S6 = Jake Worthington, S7 = None, S8 = None, S9 = Barret Baber + Emily Ann Roberts, S10 = Adam Wakefield, S11 = Josh Gallagher, S12 = Lauren Duski, S13 = Red Marlowe, S14 = None, S15 = Kirk Jay, S16 = Gyth Rigdon + Dexter Roberts + Andrew Sevener, S17 = None, S18 = None

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The people who think some Country winners/Contestants weren't deserving are the ones who aren't in love with that genre. I think all were deserving why? cz I like country so Much the people who aren't diehard country fans like majority of the IDF don't think they are deserving. Country singers don't need to have big voices to get the title of DESERVING, As it is said Be The Beat Whatever You Are so greatness never likes in reaching high elevated rank greatness lies in doing constant hard work and giving your best whatever your position might be. In case of county singers if they can't hit some high notes then there is no need for them to do that they should stay in their lane and sing it with their heart and just sing it pleasently and beautifuly and it would still be amazing.


I highly disagree, I agree with it’s not all about high notes and runs though.

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