The American Politics Thread!

[bswanson]

about the so called burned ballots, sorry another loss for Trump https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/05/fact-check-false-claim-video-shows-trump-ballots-being-burned/6171716002/ 

[sneaky]

7 minutes ago, ButterflyEffect said:

I don't live in your country. I enjoy watching you clowns though, you've been a great source of entertainment for the past four years. Am I a tool? Yeah, maybe I'm a tool today. But you? You'll be stupid forever.

American "Exceptionalism"

[psterina]

5 minutes ago, bswanson said:

if your talking about the burned ballot video from eric trump that was fake those ballots were not legit ones and thrown out. fact checked. and many of the other things you and others have posted have been debunked too. so Bide nis gonna win just accept it. 

 

I will accept the truth, as it is revealed, from the court hearings. Can you live with that?

[psterina]

5 minutes ago, bswanson said:

about the so called burned ballots, sorry another loss for Trump https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/05/fact-check-false-claim-video-shows-trump-ballots-being-burned/6171716002/ 

 

It's really gonna be blah blah blah, until the court hearings. Because .....   THAT, will be the truth revealed to us all. Until then, whatever I am saying, whatever you're saying, whatever the media is saying, won't matter. The court certifies, the presidency, NOT the media. and ....  the best, is yet, to come. 

[Nutterbutter]

14 minutes ago, ButterflyEffect said:

I don't live in your country. I enjoy watching you clowns though, you've been a great source of entertainment for the past four years. Am I a tool? Yeah, maybe I'm a tool today. But you? You'll be stupid forever.

Touched a nerve didn't i. 

[*Chris]

16 minutes ago, ButterflyEffect said:

I don't live in your country. I enjoy watching you clowns though, you've been a great source of entertainment for the past four years. Am I a tool? Yeah, maybe I'm a tool today. But you? You'll be stupid forever.

[bswanson]

yeah some will go to the courts, but the ones that have already been debunked will be thrown out, even if there are recounts, i dont think it will make a difference. maybe trump gets a few more but thats it. 

Edited November 7, 2020 by bswanson

[psterina]

4 minutes ago, bswanson said:

yeah some will go to the courts, but the ones that have already been debunked will be thrown out, even if there are recounts, i dont think it will make a difference. maybe trump gets a few more but thats it. 

 

You are free, to think & believe, whatever you want  

[*Chris]

I have a question for Trump supporters in this thread - where do you find yourself on the political spectrum? And what’s the reasoning for supporting him?

[echoap]

Just throwing some facts:

 

[bswanson]

3 minutes ago, echoap said:

Just throwing some facts:

 

LMAO

[sneaky]

 

 

THE OBSERVERS WERE NOT ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTING ROOMS. I WON THE ELECTION, GOT 71,000,000 LEGAL VOTES. BAD THINGS HAPPENED WHICH OUR OBSERVERS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SEE. NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. MILLIONS OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS WERE SENT TO PEOPLE WHO NEVER ASKED FOR THEM! 

 

 

[FunkyFrankie]

So Trump got Trumped

[bills_guy]

Looks like all of the Democrats who lost their elections in the House (and the close Senate races) underperformed their polling dramatically, all opposed to Medicare for All, GND, etc. Meanwhile, 25 of the 30 candidates nominated by the DSA won, and dramatically outperformed their polls. This election went poorly for Democrats because they went the same route of the milquetoast centrist that they did in 2016.

 

All 9 of Trump's lawsuits so far have gotten either declined by the courts of they've ruled against them. So today they've filed their 10th.

 

I do not even support Joe Biden. I just recognize there's no more single individual no destructive for this country in the modern era than Donald Trump. So it makes me extremely happy that he'll be gone in January.

[bills_guy]

3 hours ago, psterina said:

 

I will accept the truth, as it is revealed, from the court hearings. Can you live with that?

Of the 9 suits that courts have been heard so far, they've lost or their cases have been dismissed as having no merit. You obviously do not accept the truth as revealed by the courts.

[bills_guy]

3 hours ago, psterina said:

 

And yet ....  it was Joe Biden who enacted into law,  locking up people for just possessing marijuana, and it ended up, with thousands, and thousands of black men, sentenced to prison for it.  And, as Tulsi Gabbard EXPOSED Kamala Harris, for locking up over 1500 people of color, just for possessing marijuana. So .... spare me. Talk & tears, are cheap. I guess we need to be reminded of this, yet again  

 

 

I love Tulsi, but anyone possessing any amount of marijuana has been a criminal offense since the 1930s.

[psterina]

3 hours ago, *Chris said:

I have a question for Trump supporters in this thread - where do you find yourself on the political spectrum? And what’s the reasoning for supporting him?

 

I have shared this a couple of times before ... but happy to do it again. I'm a democrat. Always have been, and have always voted democrat. On some issues, I'm progressive left. On others left of center. Why did I not vote dem, this time?  I have to go back to the primaries. I was rooting for Tulsi Gabbard. She really pulled me in, during the 1st debate, when she skewered Tim Ryan, and his stance on Afghanistan. Her stance, on other issues, really resonated, with me. Then, next debate ... she totally skewered Kamala Harris, by exposing her record, as AG of California.  The media, and the DNC, came after Tulsi with pitchforks & knives, by calling her a Russian Asset, and an Assad Apologist. The media, either smeared Tulsi 24/7, or ghosted her. The goal posts, for the debates, were consistently moved, in order to keep Tulsi out, as she kept knocking out,  the DNC's chosen ones. Kamala ended up dropping out of the race, as her support, dropped drastically, after Tulsi's exposure. Tulsi, was kept out of future debates ( she had gotten into 3 of the, total), and continued to be ghosted by the media, or totally smeared. 

 

I saw all of that playing out. And even then .....it took me a while, to see, that this is EXACTLY what the media, had/has been doing to Trump, his entire presidency. I mean  .... 24/7 everyday, for his entire presidency.  I looked into what he had really done, and saw , that he had done a lot of great things.  Besides growing a great economy, one of the places I looked, was at his executive orders. The actual Executive Orders,  can each be pulled up, as a pdf. I saw, that he had given farmers 28 billion dollars, had great EO's for veterans, for native americans, for so many things. Here's a link: https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/donald-trump/2020

 

During the primaries, I didn't want Biden, and I certainly, didn't want Kamala. They are corrupt, as is the media., who continues, to show their corruption, like today. Biden, has not won. The media, CANNOT call the presidency. It's not their place, to call it.

[psterina]

1 hour ago, bills_guy said:

Of the 9 suits that courts have been heard so far, they've lost or their cases have been dismissed as having no merit. You obviously do not accept the truth as revealed by the courts.

 

 

Really? Cuz, the court cases start on Monday

[psterina]

So ... what was the company, with the faulty software?  Dominion Voting.   And who, is connected with it?   None other than ... the Clinton Foundation. . I t was used in pretty much EVERY SWING STATE! 

 

 

[mercfan3]

LMAO

 

Since Election Day, many Trump campaign staffers have been huddled on a noisy floor in the campaign's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters fielding hundreds of calls a day on a hotline the campaign set up as they try to find instances of voter fraud, multiple sources told ABC News.

But the hotline has turned into a nightmare for some, as staffers, some of whom have contracts that expire in the coming days, have been bombarded with prank calls from people laughing or mocking them over Biden's win before hanging up, sources tell ABC News. 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inside-trump-campaign-grapples-defeat-plowing-forward-legal/story?id=74082317

[BrokenHearted]

2 hours ago, bills_guy said:

Looks like all of the Democrats who lost their elections in the House (and the close Senate races) underperformed their polling dramatically, all opposed to Medicare for All, GND, etc. Meanwhile, 25 of the 30 candidates nominated by the DSA won, and dramatically outperformed their polls. This election went poorly for Democrats because they went the same route of the milquetoast centrist that they did in 2016.

Under/overperformance relative to the polls says nothing other than that the polling system is deeply flawed (which we already knew from 2016). The whole idea of judging the success of a campaign by how it compared to the polls has zero logic to it. This was a good result for the Democrats - not amazing, but good.

[TeamAudra]

I noticed Joe was wearing a little more makeup than usual in his speech tonight. He looked at least 5 years younger. 

[sneaky]

37 minutes ago, psterina said:

So ... what was the company, with the faulty software?  Dominion Voting.   And who, is connected with it?   None other than ... the Clinton Foundation. . I t was used in pretty much EVERY SWING STATE! 

 

 

I'll admit that is troublesome that the Clinton foundation is involved with the voter machines. Not that I dont believe the results are legit but still

[JC]

14 hours ago, mercfan3 said:

I agree.

 

I meant as a whole, Democrats are much more socially liberal than Bernie, and much more economically conservative than Bernie. 
 

Biden fits the overall base much better. It’s also just clear to me Dems need a better strategy. There are clearly more Dems in the country, but we’re failing systemically. We need to either put Stacey Abrams in complete control, or pick her brain...

 

On a side note, Joe Biden is going to go down in history as the VP to the first Black president. The first person to have a Black VP and Southeastern VP the first person to have a woman VP (which will likely open the door for the first woman president). Despite some of his policies, anti-racist and feminist historians will remember him well.

Yes I think this would sum me up pretty well. Bernie also has the issue with having the socialist/communist label, which is not a good label in America whether you're Republican or Democrat. The moderate vote would have had a hard time voting for him. I am a left leaning moderate and I was very much against Bernie not only because I was sure he could not beat Trump, but also because his economic policies were pretty radical for me. I would 100% have voted for him over dump truck Trump, but I'm not sure if many other moderates would say the same.

 

Biden is not perfect, because no one is. But I am 100% sure he will do a better job than Trump. And there are many reasons to celebrate him and his legacy  BUT ANYWAYS WE GOTS TO CELEBRATE WE DID IT!!!

 

 

 

[JC]

7 hours ago, ButterflyEffect said:

I don't live in your country. I enjoy watching you clowns though, you've been a great source of entertainment for the past four years. Am I a tool? Yeah, maybe I'm a tool today. But you? You'll be stupid forever.

 You're my new spirit animal.

 

The Trump trolls in this thread are extra entertaining today   Losing looks great on deplorables!