The American Politics Thread!

[ATX29]

3 hours ago, FrogLenzen said:

I am very concerned about Biden's mental faculties, just as I have been with Trump's. I think that the more people see of Biden the less support he will have. Trump is immune to that criticism at this point, but I don't think Biden will be.

 

100% agree with all of this.  That is why Biden can't beat Trump.

[Jonathan]

Omg Trumps mental health on his best day is worse than Biden’s is on his worst day. He will beat the pants off Trump no problem.

Edited March 5, 2020 by Jonathan

[FrogLenzen]

3 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

Omg Trumps mental health on his best day is worse than Biden’s is on his worst day. 

(1) I'm not sure that is true

(2) That is a shockingly low bar and I think we can do better

(3) Trump's voters do not care about his mental state. Biden's potential voters will likely care more, and it could affect turnout. 

[Smoochy]

51 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Yep. NYTimes is saying she won't be publicly endorsing anyone until the nomination is secured because she doesn't want to fuel the divisiveness anymore.

Wouldn't be shocked at all. Only way I could see that changing is if Bernie or Biden offer her the VP slot. In that case, I could see her endorsing earlier.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Yep. NYTimes is saying she won't be publicly endorsing anyone until the nomination is secured because she doesn't want to fuel the divisiveness anymore.

Makes sense to me. It would result in blowback for her regardless of whom she endorses. Wise decision. 

[Elliott]

42 minutes ago, Smoochy said:

Wouldn't be shocked at all. Only way I could see that changing is if Bernie or Biden offer her the VP slot. In that case, I could see her endorsing earlier.

I think she’s much more useful to either of them in the senate than as VP personally.

 

I also think with their ages, they might be going after someone younger. I could actually see Biden picking Pete.

[ATX29]

6 hours ago, Jonathan said:

Omg Trumps mental health on his best day is worse than Biden’s is on his worst day. He will beat the pants off Trump no problem.

I understand what you're saying but I'm not sure I can agree.  I absolutely think Trump is mentally unstable.  No question.  But I also think Biden's record in that dept speaks for it itself.  As for Biden beating the pants off Trump...well I just dont think that happens but we'll see bc it's now clear that he'll get the chance.

[TeamAudra]

7 hours ago, Jonathan said:

Omg Trumps mental health on his best day is worse than Biden’s is on his worst day. He will beat the pants off Trump no problem.

Trump is the same as he’s always been, so people at least know what to expect. Biden, on the other hand.....his age has really caught up to him. I don’t think there’s any way he would make it through two terms and two campaigns. I’m surprised he even agreed to run. 

Edited March 6, 2020 by TeamAudra

[Jonathan]

43 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:

Trump is the same as he’s always been, so people at least know what to expect. Biden, on the other hand.....his age has really caught up to him. I don’t think there’s any way he would make it through two terms and two campaigns. I’m surprised he even agreed to run. 

Oh I don't expect Biden to run at 82. His VP choice is key now because that is most likely who will run in 2024. That's why I really hope it's Kamala or Amy. 

[psterina]

11 hours ago, Jonathan said:

 

I love how Harris says no women left in this race. It's like Tulsi fkin who? 

 

LOLOLOL   As if Kamala, doesn't think of how Tulsi ended her run, every day.  And  probably will, for the rest of her life.  Fact is …. Tulsi IS still in this race, against all odds, and … with the MSM ghosting her, or smearing her. I have no illusions, about her winning  (this time), BUT …  she is a unique candidate, pulling in people, from all fronts, with a message, that needs, to keep getting out to people.  And, she has my full support, and vote. The ONLY candidate (and I mean ONLY), to come out swinging against the Military Industrial Complex, Big Pharma, Private Prisons, Big Ag, Big Oil and ….. the very corrupt, disgusting DNC, is Tulsi.  The rest are supporters of all that I listed,  or …. are cowards.

[Smoochy]

7 hours ago, psterina said:

 

LOLOLOL   As if Kamala, doesn't think of how Tulsi ended her run, every day.  And  probably will, for the rest of her life.  Fact is …. Tulsi IS still in this race, against all odds, and … with the MSM ghosting her, or smearing her. I have no illusions, about her winning  (this time), BUT …  she is a unique candidate, pulling in people, from all fronts, with a message, that needs, to keep getting out to people.  And, she has my full support, and vote. The ONLY candidate (and I mean ONLY), to come out swinging against the Military Industrial Complex, Big Pharma, Private Prisons, Big Ag, Big Oil and ….. the very corrupt, disgusting DNC, is Tulsi.  The rest are supporters of all that I listed,  or …. are cowards.

Bernie has also come out against all that stuff and, in turn, has been smeared as a Russian asset and a divisive nut job. 
 

It’s amazing what happens to candidates who openly oppose the status quo.  

[TeamAudra]

They finally updated. 
 

Biden 87%
No one 10%
Sanders 2%

Gabbard 0%
 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/

Edited March 6, 2020 by TeamAudra

[RWG]

Interesting piece on the unravelling of Warren's campaign

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/warren-team-wonders-how-they-blew-it-122628

 

I admired Warren as a politician focused on regulating banks and helping working people. It's too bad that whoever got in her ear was able to change her into a person focused on taking selfies and showcasing her dog.

[RWG]

41 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:

They finally updated. 
 

Biden 87%
No one 10%
Sanders 2%

Gabbard 0%
 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/

 

You may as well add the 10% "No one" to Biden's odds.

Edited March 6, 2020 by RWG

[sneaky]

On 3/5/2020 at 11:27 PM, psterina said:

 

LOLOLOL   As if Kamala, doesn't think of how Tulsi ended her run, every day.  And  probably will, for the rest of her life.  Fact is …. Tulsi IS still in this race, against all odds, and … with the MSM ghosting her, or smearing her. I have no illusions, about her winning  (this time), BUT …  she is a unique candidate, pulling in people, from all fronts, with a message, that needs, to keep getting out to people.  And, she has my full support, and vote. The ONLY candidate (and I mean ONLY), to come out swinging against the Military Industrial Complex, Big Pharma, Private Prisons, Big Ag, Big Oil and ….. the very corrupt, disgusting DNC, is Tulsi.  The rest are supporters of all that I listed,  or …. are cowards.

I'm team Bernie all the way but I wish Tulsi had caught on. People say that there are some conservatives that would vote for Biden but I've not seen any proof of that. I've seen several conservative Republicans like Tucker Carlson who like her. Which makes me chuckle because she is with Bernie on 90 percent of the issues. 

 

I hate to say it though but I think for a lot of the Republican men its because they find her attractive

[Smoochy]

1 hour ago, sneaky said:

I'm team Bernie all the way but I wish Tulsi had caught on. People say that there are some conservatives that would vote for Biden but I've not seen any proof of that. I've seen several conservative Republicans like Tucker Carlson who like her. Which makes me chuckle because she is with Bernie on 90 percent of the issues. 

 

I hate to say it though but I think for a lot of the Republican men its because they find her attractive

The only conservatives I’ve seen who would vote for Biden over Trumps are the group that call themselves “never Trumpers”. Mostly people who just don’t like Trumps personality. Probably a very small percentage of voters. 

[TeamAudra]

35 minutes ago, Smoochy said:

The only conservatives I’ve seen who would vote for Biden over Trumps are the group that call themselves “never Trumpers”. Mostly people who just don’t like Trumps personality. Probably a very small percentage of voters. 

There are a lot of conservatives who don’t like Trump at all who voted for him last time, and will vote for him again. There are also some who didn’t vote for him last time, who will vote for him this time, even though they think he’s a dink or worse.  If they vote for Biden, they probably aren’t “conservative.”

Edited March 7, 2020 by TeamAudra

[mercfan3]

Conservatives aren’t going to vote for either Biden or Sanders.

 

There are some people who consider themselves moderate that either didn’t vote last time, or voted for Trump who might switch over.

 

The problems weren’t fixed from last time though. Republicans have still make it difficult for communities of color to vote. Republicans refuse to fix election security. 
 

The only thing Dems have in their favor right now is that Republicans aren’t currently running a political investigation against the Dem candidate (don’t worry, they will.) 
 

Democrats win with a young charismatic candidate who doesn’t have much of a record - so Republicans and progressives can’t make mountains of mole hills. (Obama/Clinton)...We needed Booker/Harris/Pete/Beto. 
 

I’ll take Joe any day of the week over Bernie, but the party is in an awful position. 

[psterina]

4 hours ago, sneaky said:

I'm team Bernie all the way but I wish Tulsi had caught on. People say that there are some conservatives that would vote for Biden but I've not seen any proof of that. I've seen several conservative Republicans like Tucker Carlson who like her. Which makes me chuckle because she is with Bernie on 90 percent of the issues. 

 

I hate to say it though but I think for a lot of the Republican men its because they find her attractive

 

It's hard to "catch on", when the goal posts are moved, and she's kept off the debates, and also, when the media either smears, or ignores her.  She has met the debate qualifications, (2 delegates, and 1, gave her that qualification), but looks like the very corrupt, un-democratic DNC, are going to play dirty, with her again. It's not Russia interfering with our Election. it's the DNC and Mainstream Media. It's CRIMINAL !!

[Guest]

She has no delegates practically and no path. She's in this for her own vanity now. Get the hell off the stage. Point taken about the rules being changed and all that, but another rule change to allow you on stage isn't going to make you suddenly viable. 

[psterina]

1 hour ago, Drew said:

She has no delegates practically and no path. She's in this for her own vanity now. Get the hell off the stage. Point taken about the rules being changed and all that, but another rule change to allow you on stage isn't going to make you suddenly viable. 

 

 

Although it's obvious, that she is not going to win, the point is … she is still running, because there are many of us who want her to run, and are supporting her (Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Libertarians, Greens, as they all show up at her town halls).  It is her Message, her Platform, that needs to get out to people.  Having TRILLIONS of $$ spend on the endless Regime Wars, has got to come to an end!!!  It's senseless!!!!! We weren't elected to be the world's police! 

 

The last reason she is still in, is because of vanity. THAT, is not at all, who she is. And … She is literally a target, because of what she stands for (Reigning in Military Industrial Complex, Big Pharma, Big Oil, Privately Owned Prisons, Big Ag). That is why she is silenced.  Lives have been ended, for taking this kind of stand (JFK,RFK,MLK)

Edited March 7, 2020 by psterina

[RWG]

^ Why not support Sanders if you care about those issues? Biden is probably going to win anyways, but Gabbard has literally zero chance and Sanders is still a thousand times more viable than her.

[*Chris]

 

[TeamAudra]

 

[psterina]

13 hours ago, RWG said:

^ Why not support Sanders if you care about those issues? Biden is probably going to win anyways, but Gabbard has literally zero chance and Sanders is still a thousand times more viable than her.

 

Because, Sanders has been weak and cowardly on important issues. She, is the one who has my vote, and my support. As far as to why Tulsi, is still in this ...

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/why-hawaii-rep-tulsi-gabbard-is-continuing-her-bid-for-president/ar-BB10Sup8?ocid=spartanntp