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On 3/13/2020 at 5:12 PM, RWG said:

It's going to be interesting to see how the league handles this IF they are able to resume the season/playoffs at all.

 

It's totally possible that's it for the year.

 

They could do an abbreviated playoff with the top 2 teams from each division. Or they could do a full playoffs, but maybe there first one or two rounds are best-of-three.

 

If they do say the regular season is over and the playoffs will immediately start the playoffs, what criteria would they use, especially vis-a-vis the Western Conference?

If the go by points, it would be ridiculously unfair given that some teams have played two more games than others. But Calgary, Winnipeg, and Nashville would make it, Vancouver would miss (they are tied with Nashville but would lose the third tiebreaker).

If they go by points percentage, which adjusts for games played and is used by the league for things like waiver wire, the Canucks would move ahead of the Flames for third in the West, the Flames would drop into the 2nd wild-card spot, and Winnipeg would be the team to miss.

 

And how are players supposed to be in shape when hockey resumes? They shouldn't be working out anywhere that's not a personal home gym. How will the cap work? Will UFAs whose contracts expire July 1 be allowed to play for their current teams in the playoffs?

 

It all feels very insignificant. Is winning the cup after all this something a team's fans would brag about 10 years down the line?

I think it might be over for the year.  That was sudden. :omg:   I don't see them awarding a cup to anybody, since now it looks like all the distancing measures will continue over the summer.

It's weird to lose all sports at once.  The local sports radio station resorted to interviewing a doctor.  You're right though, they'll have to train for next season, distantly.  Would the next season even get pushed back?

 

What about the expansion draft?

 

Meanwhile there was Twitter outrage because the Flames were not going to pay Saddledome hourly workers compensation, but now they are.  Meanwhile a Go Fund Me for it had donations from a lot of Flames players who are a decent lot.

 

In Calgary they closed all City facilities, like libraries and pools.  Maybe if everything goes ok I can spend summer lying on the lawn... 🦡   That's the only thing left.

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On 3/16/2020 at 6:08 PM, Mysteriosa said:

I think it might be over for the year.  That was sudden. :omg:   I don't see them awarding a cup to anybody, since now it looks like all the distancing measures will continue over the summer.

It's weird to lose all sports at once.  The local sports radio station resorted to interviewing a doctor.  You're right though, they'll have to train for next season, distantly.  Would the next season even get pushed back?

 

What about the expansion draft?

 

Meanwhile there was Twitter outrage because the Flames were not going to pay Saddledome hourly workers compensation, but now they are.  Meanwhile a Go Fund Me for it had donations from a lot of Flames players who are a decent lot.

 

In Calgary they closed all City facilities, like libraries and pools.  Maybe if everything goes ok I can spend summer lying on the lawn... 🦡   That's the only thing left.

 

I think you're right. The regular season is RIP in peace and I doubt they get any playoffs in, either. Let's say the league is 10x more desperate to resume than the NBA is because they make a good chunk of their revenue off the gate, and not based on their TV deal alone. I don't think there's a way to get all the players in shape and book all the venues in a tournament that conforms to the league's "integrity" level for awarding a cup. And would they have support from the health authorities to resume? It sounds less and less likely. What a PR mess it would be for the league if they resumed and there were another outbreak throughout the league, or one stemming from attendance at one of its games.

 

The draft, conditional picks, who for the record "made the playoffs." It's pointless to speculate at this point. It's going to be messy to sort out though, and whatever the league decides, a lot of owners and executives will be pissed.

 

Canucks initially announced they were creating a "program" to help part-time employees based on "individual need." They got a lot of backlash, because they owner has like 3.5 billion dollars, and today they announced they'd send their proof of employment to the government so they could easily apply for EI, and pay them most of the rest of what they'd make without EI. So we got there but it would have been nice if the owners had just done this out of kindness.

 

Businesses and services are increasingly closing here too. We still have transit so people can get to work, restaurants doing take out and delivery,  grocery stores, convenience stores, and pharmacies, but that's about it. On Friday, it was still ok to go out if we avoided crowded indoor spaces. On the weekend and Monday, you could at least go out for a walk. Now it's as if, socially, you need a good reason to be on the streets. I was ordered to work from home, and I'm not allowed in the office without permission from my boss. I live in a 1-bedroom apartment (by myself, thankfully), and I have everything I need, but I don't know how I'm going to do this for maybe 6-8 weeks without going crazyyyyyyy.

 

Anyways, hockey fans, wishing you and your families all the best. Message me if you ever want to chat about hockey; it not like I have anything else to do. :P

 

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The Boston Bruins are now the only team in the league who have not offered to help their employees at all. Not Ottawa, not Florida, not Arizona... Boston. Their owner, Jeremy Jacobs, is worth almost $4 million.

 

There's a group of teams that just did it, another group of teams that had to be shamed into it, then there are the Bruins. Even the Massachusetts AG has shamed them...

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On 3/16/2020 at 5:47 PM, ShortstopVM said:

I was supposed to go to The Garden for Rangers/Flames tonight... :closedeyes:

 

I guess that can wait until another day; that's the least of my pressing matters at the moment... Hopefully the NHL can find way to make up all these games... :yes:

That's sad.  What's it like at The Garden?  I imagine the Flames would have tried to win in the 3rd period.  :P  I miss them driving me crazy.

 

On 3/17/2020 at 7:46 PM, RWG said:

 

I think you're right. The regular season is RIP in peace and I doubt they get any playoffs in, either. Let's say the league is 10x more desperate to resume than the NBA is because they make a good chunk of their revenue off the gate, and not based on their TV deal alone. I don't think there's a way to get all the players in shape and book all the venues in a tournament that conforms to the league's "integrity" level for awarding a cup. And would they have support from the health authorities to resume? It sounds less and less likely. What a PR mess it would be for the league if they resumed and there were another outbreak throughout the league, or one stemming from attendance at one of its games.

 

The draft, conditional picks, who for the record "made the playoffs." It's pointless to speculate at this point. It's going to be messy to sort out though, and whatever the league decides, a lot of owners and executives will be pissed.

 

Canucks initially announced they were creating a "program" to help part-time employees based on "individual need." They got a lot of backlash, because they owner has like 3.5 billion dollars, and today they announced they'd send their proof of employment to the government so they could easily apply for EI, and pay them most of the rest of what they'd make without EI. So we got there but it would have been nice if the owners had just done this out of kindness.

 

Businesses and services are increasingly closing here too. We still have transit so people can get to work, restaurants doing take out and delivery,  grocery stores, convenience stores, and pharmacies, but that's about it. On Friday, it was still ok to go out if we avoided crowded indoor spaces. On the weekend and Monday, you could at least go out for a walk. Now it's as if, socially, you need a good reason to be on the streets. I was ordered to work from home, and I'm not allowed in the office without permission from my boss. I live in a 1-bedroom apartment (by myself, thankfully), and I have everything I need, but I don't know how I'm going to do this for maybe 6-8 weeks without going crazyyyyyyy.

 

Anyways, hockey fans, wishing you and your families all the best. Message me if you ever want to chat about hockey; it not like I have anything else to do. :P

 

I think it will be difficult to squeeze in a normal playoff run.  The problem like you said is the conditioning.  There was an article about it, where a trainer said it is difficult for players to stay fit without training properly, and they would get injured if they had to just start playing with no lead up time.  He also said after four days they were going crazy with sitting round. 

 

A local mall had a worker diagnosed, but fortunately I haven't been to that mall in a while. Many of the stores are closed.  It is odd how you don't really feel you need to go somewhere that badly, until you can't, and then you really, really wish you could go.  There's no hockey and it's too quiet.  I was looking for a new job.  I should have known, once they close hockey everything must go.

 

Wishing you the best.  We might all take you up on your offer.  I'm already so bored.

On 3/20/2020 at 5:40 PM, RWG said:

The Boston Bruins are now the only team in the league who have not offered to help their employees at all. Not Ottawa, not Florida, not Arizona... Boston. Their owner, Jeremy Jacobs, is worth almost $4 million.

 

There's a group of teams that just did it, another group of teams that had to be shamed into it, then there are the Bruins. Even the Massachusetts AG has shamed them...

There's no cheapskate like a rich cheapskate.  How is it Boston is shame-proof?  Calgary's go fund me raised $81 000.  They are going to see if they can divide it up amongst the employees anyway, even though the Flames gave in.  

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At least Calgary is among the ones doing the honourable thing.  Kudos to them & there others (not Boston, of course)

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On 3/22/2020 at 2:55 AM, Mysteriosa said:

That's sad.  What's it like at The Garden?  I imagine the Flames would have tried to win in the 3rd period.  :P  I miss them driving me crazy.

 

I think it will be difficult to squeeze in a normal playoff run.  The problem like you said is the conditioning.  There was an article about it, where a trainer said it is difficult for players to stay fit without training properly, and they would get injured if they had to just start playing with no lead up time.  He also said after four days they were going crazy with sitting round. 

 

A local mall had a worker diagnosed, but fortunately I haven't been to that mall in a while. Many of the stores are closed.  It is odd how you don't really feel you need to go somewhere that badly, until you can't, and then you really, really wish you could go.  There's no hockey and it's too quiet.  I was looking for a new job.  I should have known, once they close hockey everything must go.

 

Wishing you the best.  We might all take you up on your offer.  I'm already so bored.

There's no cheapskate like a rich cheapskate.  How is it Boston is shame-proof?  Calgary's go fund me raised $81 000.  They are going to see if they can divide it up amongst the employees anyway, even though the Flames gave in.  

 

A part of me would like to see all the players compete for the cup out of shape.

 

The NHL insiders are still throwing out weird playoff scenarios. Apparently the 24-team playoff is popular because it gets Chicago and Montreal in. I think it's nuts. They're naive to think they can finish this season, at least without interrupting next season. I think the Gare Bear knows the season is RIP in peace, but he has to posture for the owners. Given that China hasn't gone fully back to normal and we don't know whether there will be a second wave of infections, there is no way health authorities will give them their blessing to host events with 20,000 people by the end of the summer.

 

The Bruins announced layoffs and salary reductions to their staff, too. What do they always say about playoff revenue? It's massive and it's not in the budget; it's just extra revenue for the owners. Last year, the Bruins went all the way to the cup final and hosted four Stanley Cup Final games. And they're STILL the second (after the Habs) team to announce staff layoffs during a pandemic? What a POS owner, just motivated by sheer greed.

 

I'm bored too. I've been watching lots of movies and reading and getting back into running.

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