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I definitely think that the voice is heading into a new era of getting current coaches onto the show, let me explain. 
 

ever since s11 we got big names to be on the show. from Miley Cyrus and Alicia Keys to Jennifer Hudson to Kelly Clarkson to John Legend to Nick Jonas but now with the addition of Ariana Grande, a current artist topping the charts and releasing 3 albums in the span of 2 years getting #1s (if you couldn’t guess by now I love Ari) I definitely think in these next few seasons coming ahead we are going to get some names that are topping the charts to bring in more viewers to the show, examples include Taylor Swift to Dua Lipa to Bruno Mars, Justin Bieber or Ed Sheeran. Let’s face it, viewing has gone down season after season and people aren’t interested to the show like during the prime (1-6, or at least I consider the prime). This way getting current and popular artists will 1. Create buzz for the show, wasn’t Ari announcement post the most liked post on their IG page correct me if I’m wrong though 2. People will watch and 3. More social media engagement amongst fans of the artist, new fans interested, or people returning to the show after not watching for a period of time. And now with a season gone from the tv cycle means more money to pay coaches to come on the show. Also, there will come a point in time where Blake or Kelly leaves the show or fans who have been watching for a long time will not anymore, with the new fans watching for their favorite coach or now because of the show, they can still get a decent number of views. Additionally, with new and popular coaches probably comes brands wanting to sponsor them so added bonus. To wrap up this lengthy post, with Ari coming in just a few more months, I think The Voice is heading into a new direction into picking their new coaches, to keep the show still fresh and current and keeping NBC making money, getting the artists that are topping the charts. What do you guys think? 

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thanks to @jus.vshn for telling me to post this

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Corey and Jose did an IG Live and confirmed that the contract they're under explicitly forbids them to cover any songs on social media for a set amount of time. You also need to ask permission to do gigs and promotions for an entire year, especially if you plan on using The Voice brand as part of your promotion.

They are also very surprised at the amount of people this season that are bypassing these rules.

 

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5 minutes ago, Teraginn said:

Corey and Jose did an IG Live and confirmed that the contract they're under explicitly forbids them to cover any songs on social media for a set amount of time. You also need to ask permission to do gigs and promotions for an entire year, especially if you plan on using The Voice brand as part of your promotion.

They are also very surprised at the amount of people this season that are bypassing these rules.

Jordan had one show now since the finale, and is already having another one on Thursday.

 

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13 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

Jordan had one show now since the finale, and is already having another one on Thursday.

 

as I said the other day, NBC probably does not really care about enforcing this rule, as there are numerous cases of artists breaking this rule in past seasons. Hope they don't get into trouble either way.

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28 minutes ago, Teraginn said:

Corey and Jose did an IG Live and confirmed that the contract they're under explicitly forbids them to cover any songs on social media for a set amount of time. You also need to ask permission to do gigs and promotions for an entire year, especially if you plan on using The Voice brand as part of your promotion.

They are also very surprised at the amount of people this season that are bypassing these rules.

 


LOL. I guess they don’t enforce those rules. I gave some examples the other day. Chevel was singing live for audiences practically from the time she stepped off the plane. Less than three months after her win, a climate change music video with her and Chaka Khan was released. Then she recorded the theme song for the Professional Bull Riders tour, less than a year later, and it aired weekly on CBS! I doubt they approved that. 
 

Those rules are garbage. If they were to enforce them, it would be reason enough to not go on the show. What good is the exposure if they can’t capitalize on it during the very short window of time when some viewers actually remember who they are. 

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1 minute ago, TeamAudra said:

 

Those rules are garbage. If they were to enforce them, it would be reason enough to not go on the show. What good is the exposure if they can’t capitalize on it during the very short window of time when some viewers actually remember who they are. 


Completely agree. I'm guessing that particular stipulation is just some boilerplate clause in the contract and since NBC doesn't really have vested interests in caring about the artists on the show, they don't enforce it all. 

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Completely agree. I'm guessing that particular stipulation is just some boilerplate clause in the contract and since NBC doesn't really have vested interests in caring about the artists on the show, they don't enforce it all. 


Yeah...Sundance, Barrett(?), Addison, on and on and on broke the rules, unless they got permission. There have been so many that I’m surprised the rule exists. Freaking Allegra? She practically went from the airport, straight to a gig. 😆 

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12 hours ago, Bk1234 said:

He already left one record label... Let’s hope RR is good to him (and Carter for that matter)... 🥺🤞

with RR being Ari and Nick's label, hopefully that will work out well.  Gwen is with Interscope, so still under the UMG label.  Gwen's manager is also JHud's manager, so I have hope Carter goes in that theatrical/musical way.

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This is not a knock on Victor’s talent, but does anyone else hear a computer, almost static sound in his parts. Is that autotune? If so, I know they’ve been using it, but I’ve never noticed it that much until now. 

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2 minutes ago, Bk1234 said:

This is not a knock on Victor’s talent, but does anyone else hear a computer, almost static sound in his parts. Is that autotune? If so, I know they’ve been using it, but I’ve never noticed it that much until now. 

I'm not sure. I always thought it was because of his unique tone.

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14 minutes ago, Bk1234 said:

I know they’ve been using it, but I’ve never noticed it that much until now. 

They even do that in the lives...

 

Will Breman's My body clearly shows how much pitch correction they used.

 

Some people think it's impossible to tune a live performance but actually it isn't.

 

https://www.vulture.com/2016/03/live-performance-tricks.html

 

"Many artists will rely on Auto-Tune and other pitch-correction tools in the studio, but the technology has advanced enough where singers can use it in concert, too. There’s now Auto-Tune Live, which can sense and instantly correct any missed notes so subtly that only the most well-trained ears will ever realize the vocals were initially off-key".

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14 minutes ago, Hamza Tufail said:

I'm not sure. I always thought it was because of his unique tone.

Yeah, I’m not sure if it’s just his tone or tuning. Regardless, he’s a great vocalist, so none of this really matters. I was just curious. 😅

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10 minutes ago, Hamza Tufail said:

 

They even do that in the lives...

 

Will Breman's My body clearly shows how much pitch correction they used.

 

Some people think it's impossible to tune a live performance but actually it isn't.

 

https://www.vulture.com/2016/03/live-performance-tricks.html

 

"Many artists will rely on Auto-Tune and other pitch-correction tools in the studio, but the technology has advanced enough where singers can use it in concert, too. There’s now Auto-Tune Live, which can sense and instantly correct any missed notes so subtly that only the most well-trained ears will ever realize the vocals were initially off-key".


I think it was @Spurrious that mentioned this, but Tim McGraw apparently cancelled a concert once because his autotune equipment wasn’t working. 😂
 

I wouldn’t put it past The Voice to use it for their TCOs for live performances. 

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9 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


I think it was @Spurrious that mentioned this, but Tim McGraw apparently cancelled a concert once because his autotune equipment wasn’t working. 😂
 

Btw, here's another proof if someone is wondering.

 

During a live performance Justin asked to turn off the auto tune.

 

 

Around the 0:46 mark.

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50 minutes ago, Bk1234 said:

I was just talking about how I love the S4 panel, and look what we got! 😂 “Swinners”

I love the. I hope they post "Danny's Song" in the future.

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52 minutes ago, Misirlou said:

Any of your favorites could have been tuned in live performances too, so you can`t really be a 100% sure that it`s their raw sound sometimes. Anyone could be a candidate.


And we’ve all had favorites who they clearly didn’t use it on. Don’t ask me for names. 
 

If they have it, they’re more likely to use it on their favorites, or at least contestants who fit into the long term plan. I don’t believe this is beneath them, considering the crap they’ve pulled over the years. 

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3 minutes ago, TeamAudra said:


And we’ve all had favorites who they clearly didn’t use it on. Don’t ask me for names. 
 

If they have it, they’re more likely to use it on their favorites, or at least contestants who fit into the long term plan. I don’t believe this is beneath them, considering the crap they’ve pulled over the years. 

Yeah, of course, I wouldn`t be surprised if there`s still manipulation on the lives in terms of pitch correction and such. And yes, just as they might have used it on some TCOs, there have been a lot others that didn`t get that privilege, and still wound up doing fine.

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TPTB? Manipulating results?

Nick Jonas Wow GIF by Jonas Brothers
 

In all seriousness, perfect pitch all the time is tricky even for famous professional singers, so it’s not surprising that pitch correction gets used on a big-scale TV production like The Voice. 

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I mean, we all already knew this show (and every other singing show) uses autotune in a big way, yet we still watch it and enjoy it. I don`t think it`s neccesary that we continue to discuss it again and again. 

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3 minutes ago, VintageVoice said:

TPTB? Manipulating results?

Nick Jonas Wow GIF by Jonas Brothers
 

In all seriousness, perfect pitch all the time is tricky even for famous professional singers, so it’s not surprising that pitch correction gets used on a big-scale TV production like The Voice. 


But, when they use it for some, but not others, and call it a “competition”.........

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