FloorWax 1,719 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Someone648 said: Yeah, I'm thinking Allegra/Jacob will be the leak, if there is one. That, or they'll leak one of the 4-way KO performances to hype up the audience for the vote - in fact, that's the smart thing to do to remind people to tune in. Not sure how they'd go about that, however. Whoever would get leaked in that situation would likely get the vote... ย I don't really think that would be fair ย Link to post Share on other sites
QueenCami 3,216 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, FloorWax said: ย I don't really think that would be fair ย is the voice even often fair??? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FloorWax 1,719 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, ashwinner said: is the voice even often fair??? ย That would be unfair in a way even Minivan would notice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
QueenCami 3,216 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, FloorWax said: ย That would be unfair in a way even Minivan would notice. but would minivan care if its their precious semi-country Samantha?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
indodol 8 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) I think they will only montage 1 pairing on the second KO episode (my money is on Mandi vs Anaya). They can use the last 15-20 mins of the episode to show the 4-way-knockout. ย Besides, battle steals almost never get montaged during KO. So I don't think Arei vs Jon will be montaged. Edited April 11, 2020 by indodol Link to post Share on other sites
FloorWax 1,719 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, indodol said: I think they will only montage 1 pairing on the second KO episode (my money is on Mandi vs Anaya). They can use the last 15-20 mins of the episode to show the 4-way-knockout. ย Besides, battle steals almost never get montaged during KO. So I don't think Arei vs Jon will be montaged. ย Jordyn Simone from S14 Link to post Share on other sites
thevoiceisthetop 317 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Delaney Silvernell from s15 Link to post Share on other sites
indodol 8 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Well I said almost neverย Link to post Share on other sites
indodol 8 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, thevoiceisthetop said: Delaney Silvernell from s15 Delaney's KO was not montaged tho Link to post Share on other sites
antikid 1,193 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 It would be weird leaking Kelly twice in a row (only John) but don't they usually leak a knockout where both performances were good? Why everyone thinks Micah vs Tayler is off the table? I'm thinking it's either them or Allegra Link to post Share on other sites
Zero0 1 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 hours ago, ashwinner said: is the voice even often fair??? If the show is fair, My favorite Top 8 Semi-finalists: Quote ย Team Legend: Zan Fiskum Darious Lyles(or CammWess) ย Team Blake: Joanna Serenko Joei Fulco ย Team Kelly: Anaya Cheyenne Mandi Thomas ย Team Nick:Thunderstorm Artis Arei Moon ย ย If not fair: Quote ย Mandi Castillo Todd Tilghman Megan DanielleMicah Iverson Allegra MilesTate Brusa ย ย ย Link to post Share on other sites
joe14 260 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I really think people are giving too much thought to these leaks. I really don't think TPTB are giving much thought to these leaks. When you look back at all the leaks this season, they were usually the one of the best/if not the best performance of the episode aka they made sense in retrospect.ย I feel like they go for what will garner a strong or decent reaction or what might go viral as it brings attention to the show. Sometimes they might leak one that is goodย but save the best one for the episode as a surprise. I really don't think they are going "geez we leaked a Kelly one last week so we can't leak one this week." Additionally, I don't think leaks have that much of an impact. For starters, they are leaked on a Friday morning. I do not think it is some massive form of pimping.ย If there is a "better" knockout, the views will show it. I remember Allegra and Jake's battle out viewingย Joanna and Roderick's leakย very quickly. The one time I think they give an advantage is in the cases of blind auditions leaked before the season like Kennedy, Katie, Christina Grimmie etc.ย 4 Link to post Share on other sites
QueenMae16 2,296 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 All I know is that Maelyn is NOT going to be shook by Tate"s karaokeย version of "The Scientist"ย ย 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ATX29 1,150 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, QueenMae16 said: All I know is that Maelyn is NOT going to be shook by Tate"s karaokeย version of "The Scientist"ย ย ย Ha!ย Not even a remote chance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nezz 7 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Looking forward to watch James Taylor's comments on the performances. The producers shouldย have also invited Carole Kingย though.ย Edited April 11, 2020 by Nezz Link to post Share on other sites
joe14 260 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, QueenMae16 said: All I know is that Maelyn is NOT going to be shook by Tate"s karaokeย version of "The Scientist"ย ย don't even think she will be pinched by it 1 Link to post Share on other sites
QueenCami 3,216 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I know that in general, the contestants on the premiere of the Voice end up getting far in the competition. I went back and checked when this trend started and checked out some stuff. The trend started in Season 14, and out of the first set of blind auditions, this is the proportion of singers that made it to the semifinals (in brackets is the expected value of contestants that should have made semifinals for comparison): ย S14 - 5/9 [1.5/9] S15 - 2/9 [1.5/9] S16 - 3/10 [1.67/10] S17 - 4/8 [1.6/8] ย Evidently, this is statistically significant, so we can expect that a higher than average amount of semifinalists will be from the premiere. My guess is that of Todd T, Nelson, Tate, Tayler, Darious, Megan, Todd MH, and Joanna, the semifinalists will be (if there are 3; if there are only 2, then it wouldn't have Joanna) ย Todd T Megan Joanna. Link to post Share on other sites
JOMZ 19 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 3:14 AM, jus.vshn said: I can almost bet next weeks leak is going to be Cedrice and Toneisha Eitherway if it's Thunderstorm and Mandi C. Then it's exposure at its finest. Can they leak no-steal KO? Link to post Share on other sites
JOMZ 19 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 3:19 AM, thevoiceisthetop said: That means next week we get ย Team Kelly: Mandi Thomas vs Anaya Cheyenne Micah Iverson vs Tayler Green ย Team Nick:ย Allegra Miles vs Jacob Miller Arei Moon vs Jon Mullins ย Team John Mandi Castillo vs Thunderstorm Artis ย Team Blake Toneisha Harris vs Cedrice I think they will montage 1 KO to show the 4-Way KO. Hope it's only 1 coz they are so shit to montage 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TeamAudra 4,759 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, ashwinner said: I know that in general, the contestants on the premiere of the Voice end up getting far in the competition. I went back and checked when this trend started and checked out some stuff. The trend started in Season 14, and out of the first set of blind auditions, this is the proportion of singers that made it to the semifinals (in brackets is the expected value of contestants that should have made semifinals for comparison): ย S14 - 5/9 [1.5/9] S15 - 2/9 [1.5/9] S16 - 3/10 [1.67/10] S17 - 4/8 [1.6/8] ย Evidently, this is statistically significant, so we can expect that a higher than average amount of semifinalists will be from the premiere. My guess is that of Todd T, Nelson, Tate, Tayler, Darious, Megan, Todd MH, and Joanna, the semifinalists will be (if there are 3; if there are only 2, then it wouldn't have Joanna) ย Todd T Megan Joanna. This hadย been the case, even prior to S14. There are several reasons for this. For starters, the producers tend to stack the deck a little for the premiere. They obviously know who made it to the playoffs by the time they decide when to air the various auditions. Additionally, those who air on the premiere have the advantage of a larger audience, and I canโt prove this, but I suspect they end up on more teams on the app (I have no idea how many people actually design their own app teams). TPTB has a lot of data through the app that we donโt have, and know better than we do which contestants are resonating with the audience.ย Link to post Share on other sites
QueenCami 3,216 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, TeamAudra said: This hadย been the case, even prior to S14. There are several reasons for this. For starters, the producers tend to stack the deck a little for the premiere. They obviously know who made it to the playoffs by the time they decide when to air the various auditions. Additionally, those who air on the premiere have the advantage of a larger audience, and I canโt prove this, but I suspect they end up on more teams on the app (I have no idea how many people actually design their own app teams). TPTB has a lot of data through the app that we donโt have, and know better than we do which contestants are resonating with the audience.ย I agree with this notion and would have thought it to be true, but the data from previous seasons does not match up very well. It's possible that they made it mostly to the playoffs but didn't make it much farther, but the results then were close to average, insinuating that there was little to no tampering. I actually think that this season, they will try to be more inconspicuous with their tampering, so it's likely that less will make it as far. Link to post Share on other sites
TeamAudra 4,759 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ashwinner said: I agree with this notion and would have thought it to be true, but the data from previous seasons does not match up very well. It's possible that they made it mostly to the playoffs but didn't make it much farther, but the results then were close to average, insinuating that there was little to no tampering. I actually think that this season, they will try to be more inconspicuous with their tampering, so it's likely that less will make it as far. OK. Iโve analyzed this in the past, but mostly for the likelihood contestants aired on the premiere advanceย to the playoffs. For that, there is a very strong correlation that goes way back to earlier seasons. Itโs been a while since Iโve looked at it, though.ย Edited April 11, 2020 by TeamAudra Link to post Share on other sites
QueenCami 3,216 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, TeamAudra said: OK. Iโve analyzed this in the past, but mostly for the likelihood contestants aired on the premiere advanceย to the playoffs. For that, there is a very strong correlation that goes way back to earlier seasons. Itโs been a while since Iโve looked at it, though.ย That makes sense because I looked at semifinals, which had a higher variation, but I'm sure for playoffs the variation was much less and there was a higher association for earlier seasons. I think they just did a poor job of guessing who would go beyond the playoffs in those seasons (maybe because they collected less data then). Link to post Share on other sites
TeamAudra 4,759 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ashwinner said: That makes sense because I looked at semifinals, which had a higher variation, but I'm sure for playoffs the variation was much less and there was a higher association for earlier seasons. I think they just did a poor job of guessing who would go beyond the playoffs in those seasons (maybe because they collected less data then). It depends on which data point we look at.ย I just calculated thisย off the top of my head, but I think 9/17 winners had their blinds aired on the premiere. Inย addition to that, there were others who were aired on the premiere whoย were clearly TCO, but did not win. I do think they vary there strategy with TCO, depending on whatโs been working. For example, the amount of pimping around Kennedyโs blind was unprecedented, and it obviously didnโt work, so the next season they used more of a soft sell early/late push strategy with Maelyn. As it turns out, it probably wouldnโt have mattered, since she didnโt have any competition.ย Edited April 11, 2020 by TeamAudra Link to post Share on other sites
antikid 1,193 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Looking at the song choices for Darious vs Mike makes me think Darious could actually win. It would be weird of John to let go of yet another four chair turn. However (not counting Nelson) if Darious lost his knockout, it'd mean they gave John no frontrunners in the premiere week, which would be kinda odd, right? Edited April 11, 2020 by antikid Link to post Share on other sites
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