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4 minutes ago, kamil24 said:

is Grace in 3rd & Katy trying to save her?

Doubt it; it feels to me like the bus is out for her. Which I'm fine with.

Okay, can't blame the judges for that one. I didn't expect to do my voting until I'd heard everything for the round, but that was horrible; just submitted my votes for both Willie and Chayce and I can pull back the online/app votes for one of them afterwards.

Judges not much in favor of Freshness Factor. At least this one's only been done once previously; pity that that, too, was a rather memorable performance.

BUS ALERT! I was chewing Grace out in my review for this song choice, saying it would do fine with casual voters but any hardcore Idol fan would not appreciate it because you're not outsinging Pia on that song and with how robbed she was, it would be an affront to the show to win with it. And then Ryan mentioned "Judges Choice".

...Except I'm getting my songs confused. Pia did sing "All By Myself", and sang it well, but it wasn't her showstopper; "I'll Stand By You" was. It was one of LaToya's, and it was the exact same song they used to bus Jasmine after she outlasted LaToya. Which is kind of appropriate since Grace is being bussed for exactly the same reason.

I didn't think there could be a shock boot in a field this strong, but this qualifies. Hopefully she still gets signed; the fact that they made the "winner singles" all the way at Top 4 tells me that there's major hype for all of them.

A Moment Like This - Kelly Clarkson, Justin Guarini, Amber Holcomb, Grace Kinstler

Glory - La’Porsha Renae, Willie Spence

I Was Here - Angie Miller, Willie Spence

1. Willie Spence – “Never Be Alone” (Willie Spence)

2. Casey Bishop – “wish you were gay” (Billie Eilish)

3. Casey Bishop - “Live Wire” (Mötley Crüe)

4. Grace Kinstler - “Father” (Demi Lovato)

5. Casey Bishop – “Love Me, Leave Me” (Casey Bishop)

6. Grace Kinstler & Willie Spence w Finneas – “What They’ll Say About Us” (Finneas)

7. Casey Bishop & Chayce Beckham – “Break My Heart Again” (Finneas)

8. Willie Spence - “I Was Here” (Beyoncé)

9. Chayce Beckham – “23” (Chayce Beckham)

10. Willie Spence – “Glory” (John Legend & Common)

11. Chayce Beckham - “Wish You Would Leave” (Chris Stapleton)

12. Chayce Beckham – “Colder Weather” (Zac Brown Band)

13. Grace Kinstler – “Love Someone” (Grace Kinstler)

14. Grace Kinstler – “A Moment Like This” (Kelly Clarkson)

Overall:

1. Casey Bishop

2. Willie Spence

3. Chayce Beckham

4. Grace Kinstler

Yeah, Chayce is the obvious winner now. Willie and Grace have clear vote-splitting potential; last week I did analysis on possible finales and I determined that all three (at the time) of the other remaining contestants would have the best shot at winning against Willie/Grace.

When Chayce and Willie were the first two announced safe, I thought that they still sucked at making it suspenseful. Turns out, they did a good job with the shock boot by leaving the weakest safe contestant on the stage last.

Yeah, this Final Four is incredible. Some of my favorite contestants ever. Willie's just effortlessly good, and he's not even my favorite contestant.

Casey is just...I have no words. She's now my favorite contestant across all seasons. Tonight was the most amazing night of performances.

Man, Idol is not having a good year with male contestants, are they? First Benson Boone drops out in between being selected to the Top 24 and the airing of the Top 24 reveal, leading to the show only getting to show 23 of the "yes" verdicts and having Anilee List relegated to a Ryan Seacrest voiceover, since she initially wasn't selected. Then Wyatt Pike makes the Top 16 and drops out between performance night and the reveal of which 10 members of the Top 16 America voted into the Top 12. Then it comes out that had Cecil Ray been voted into the Top 16, he probably would've had to be disqualified for, if I was reading correctly, being abusive to his wife (girlfriend? I don't remember if he was actually married, just that he had a newborn baby that was the focus of the producers' pimp segments. Kind of awkward when one of your family values contestants turns out to be an abuser). And now Caleb Kennedy has been disqualified for apparently being part of the Ku Klux Klan Kids. I'd make a joke about a stealth Season 12 situation, but the remaining guys are still really strong and besides they only acknowledge the FOX seasons when it comes to claiming alumni (often dubiously) so their scorecard is 2-1 females for winners.

I also wonder about how they're going to pace the episode since it was originally specced for five contestants, but Ryan quickly answers by mentioning that the remaining Idols will also be doing a reprise performance, which wasn't on the original schedule. Finneas is the guest mentor. Chayce Beckham leads off with "Colder Weather" by the Zac Brown Band. The judges have nothing but empty platitudes, but then again, there's not much to critique. 75--nothing spectacular, but nothing wrong. Tonight's drink is vodka and cranberry again, by the way--even starting my intro early, it took me most of the way through Chayce's song to finish writing it.

Casey Bishop is in her element with this guest mentor, since for her personal idol pick, she's going with a Billie Eilish song, "wish you were gay". I almost forgot to not use capital letters when writing that. Special effects department on overdrive again. This performance is, of course, amazing. Well, I shouldn't say "of course"; she has had some off performances, but this certainly isn't one of them. Casey might be my favorite contestant ever. Earlier I was thinking how with Caleb gone, we're likely going to have my favorite winner in quite some time (well, okay, Maddie beats out Grace for sure and maybe Willie, but she's the only one in the last decade), and Casey would certainly challenge for my favorite winner ever. Nope, we're past that. That's a 100, and Casey just dethroned Haley Reinhart as my favorite contestant of all time. Speaking of "all-time", Ryan teases that Grace is going to be doing an iconic song from Idol history and asks us to guess which one. Hopefully it's not one that's been covered a million times, and is instead just one from one particularly memorable performance, but knowing how tapped into their fanbase this show isn't, it's probably an OWS.

Oh, but first, we've got Season 17 champion Laine Hardy here to perform his new single, "Memorize You"! At least I think he is...nope, he's just there to promote it. And yeah, Ryan says Grace Kinstler is paying tribute to the OG Idol, Kelly Clarkson. I don't know how I guessed it, but I was thinking it'd probably be "A Moment Like This", and it is. That said, this isn't automatically going to be a disaster. ...the segment with Finneas isn't promising, though. ...Okay, it's not bad. She at least doesn't make the mistake of trying to be Kelly. Until she does, but even that kind of works. I'd still only give it a 57, but that's not bad at all. Oh and we actually get some technical talk!

Willie Spence closes out the first set with "Glory", by John Legend (his choice for Personal Idol) featuring Common. Finneas says that Willie's mild-mannered but with a voice that could stop a train. Willie also pointed out that this could've just as easily been his pick for "Oscar-Winning Songs" night. It is, of course, good, but not as good as when La'Porsha did it in Season 15. 78. Katy's at a loss for words, and Luke says Willie will save people's lives with his voice. Then we get Finneas and Ash...but first, maybe I misunderstood Ryan before, because now he said we've got duets on the slate? Anyway, I could do without Ash. Finneas is pretty good, though. Song's very good. I like it.

Oh, nope, we do have both reprises and artist singles. They had real record producers team with the contestants, and the singles are already charting. Usually winner singles are for the finale! Chayce is up first with his original song and first single, "23". He mentioned it during his segment with Finneas. It gets an 82 from me. And then Chris Stapleton's "You Should Probably Leave"--oh, it's a double! That's how they're extending it out. Also good; I give it a 76 (I sense myself squeezing numbers because songs I initially rated close to one another, they're going to stick other songs between them.) And Katy prompts Chayce to reveal that "23" is currently #1 on the Country charts--see, we didn't need Caleb! Casey's up next, with her single along with the Motley Crue song from her audition...and we've also got Willie and Grace on a duet. So maybe the reprises were always on the docket, and the duets were the fix? I guess that makes sense; I feel like they've done 3 songs at Top 5 before in the ABC era, and having two songs back-to-back makes it go a bit quicker.

Casey did initially audition from home via the Idol Across America program, with "Live Wire". But before she reprises it, it's her new single, "Love Me, Leave Me". 98, and then she seamlessly transitions into the harder rock of "Live Wire"...well crap now I have to break the ratings scale again. Not for this...well, okay, for this too, it gets a 101. But I still liked the Billie Eilish song better! So now that gets a 104! I try, I really do. I want to critique, kind as I am, but I can't help but devolve into fanboying when it comes to Casey. Next is Finneas's "What They'll Say About Us", sung by Grace and Willie. It's a good fit for their voices, I give it a 96...I'm not being critical at all tonight, am I? It's tough. This is an extremely strong Final Four. I wrote that "not being critical" comment when I was still planning to give this a 92, but they pulled it up even further. But before we get any more of the contestants, Luke's going to be leading us off out of the next break.

"Waves" is Luke's new single. As expected from a professional, it's a 100 for me. Yes, that means Casey still beat him out twice. ...Actually, I'll give it a boost for that sick guitar solo. He gets a 102; Casey only beat him once. ...Oh, that's all we get before another commercial break.

And we've got another alumnus, Season 16's Michael J. Woodard! Ryan's given up on mentioning seasons by number, instead listing them by year. Oh, right, 2017 was the gap year. Michael's got his first single coming out, "Why You Texting Me?". And we get a flashback to Grace's audition. Her single is called "Love Someone", and...it's not great? Not bad; I have to give it a 63 because it was better than her Kelly Clarkson cover. And then her reprise, "Father" by Demi Lovato. Ah, so the flashback to the audition was foreshadowing! Ah, yes, I remember her singing this before and I think I had some feelings. You know, like the ones I'm having right now damnit Grace stop making me cry. ...100? I dunno, don't take my rating too seriously because I'm emotional right now. And we don't get a commercial break before launching into Willie's new single "Never Be Alone". ...Okay yeah my ratings tonight are super-inflated. Based on how I rated Casey's songs, this one gets roughly a 111. His reprise is "I Was Here" by Beyoncé, and it's a 90, which is still "basically a standard Willie Spence performance". In most seasons he'd be a clear favorite for me. We go to commercial with only a duet left, because of course we do. Well, the countdown timer hasn't started so we do officially have word that duets count.

Casey and Chayce are doing "Break My Heart Again". It's a 95, though it's a very telling one. I missed it at first since I don't always watch the screen, but coming from a musical family, my mom caught something very interesting. Chayce is clearly not suited to duet work; he mouths the parts that he's not singing which is very unprofessional. I mean, I'd do the same, but I'm not a professional, or even a terribly good singer.

Did Ryan say the finale is three hours? The first person through to the Finale is Chayce Beckham. He's followed by Willie Spence, because this show is still awful at make it suspenseful...wait, what?! I was thinking to myself that they always make the mistake of having the most obvious advancer left on the stage with the obvious elimination, but nope, it's a genuine shock boot. Grace moves on and Casey goes home in 4th place.

1. Casey Bishop

2. Willie Spence

3. Chayce Beckham

4. Grace Kinstler

5. Caleb Kennedy

Love this analysis! Though I feel like the "funnels" bit can be a double-edged sword in the era of 3-person finales, because the "vote splitting" can actually take hold there. The obvious things to look at are Season 10 vs. Season 16. There's a clear parallel between their respective final threes. Old-school country male, country-pop female, non-country female. In both cases, the two country contestants aren't actually catering to the same fanbase, but there's some overlap. In S10, when Top 3 wasn't the finale, Haley got eliminated. I maintain to this day that this was complacency at work--I was still on the official, FOX-run forums at the time instead of here at IDF, but I remember that a lot of the other Haley fans there felt like her making the Finale was a foregone conclusion after James was eliminated in 4th. And to be fair, that seemed like a logical conclusion given what we'd seen in Season 3's Top 7 and Top 4, and arguably Season 6's Top 4 and Top 3 (though the latter could have also been the same phenomenon I'm about to discuss). Given how on edge we'd been all season when she was one of the only ones getting criticized by the judges and regularly landing in the Bottom 3, I felt like this could be dangerous. And the thing is, country is very polarizing. It's clear that someone who dislikes country would rather see Lauren in the finale than Scotty, though obviously they'd rather see neither. And I feel like what happened might have been that too many people assumed that Haley making it was a foregone conclusion and floated Lauren some votes to try to get her past Scotty, just like how Melinda was easily the best contestant in Season 6 but went out in 3rd place as a result because people saw it as a referendum on who should join her in the finale. In Season 16, on the other hand, Caleb and Gabby just split votes and Maddie won easily. Seeing that Top 3, Gabby being in third was pretty obvious, because Maddie had the advantage of being the only non-country singer and Caleb had the advantage of being the only guy. Taken to its extreme last year, we had a five-person finale with 4 guys and one girl. With little in the way of other vote-splitting factors (Jonny and Francisco were the only two that I'd really consider to share a genre, and Sam herself might've split the "sob story" vote with Dillon but apparently it didn't hurt her), the lone female won.

As I post this, we're now down to our Final Five. And I'm still not sure which combinations of Final Three are best for each contestant.

Willie: The obvious best Final Three for him would be going up against the other two guys, Caleb and Chayce. No, they don't really overlap, but they sort of do. Caleb's first performance last night sounded more rock than country to me, and they did both sing originals while playing guitars and being white in Round 2. But he'd also do fine against Casey/Chayce.

Grace: ...I don't think Grace is going to win. Her best bet is probably against Casey/Chayce since I think they actually have the most overlap in style...at least when Casey is doing rock. Thing is, Casey's also gone off and done classics a number of times. So maybe she's in the best position against Caleb/Chayce, too.

Casey: Possibly Caleb/Chayce again, since she can outrock both of them or go stand out with the standards. But I'd lean towards Willie/Grace, because they're both belters and Casey can stand out by staying on the rock side.

Caleb and Chayce: For both of them, it's almost certainly Willie/Grace. Again, I think they've actually got the most overlap, and despite their differing genres technically, they can only benefit from the other being eliminated and leaving them alone in the WGWG category.

Poor look on the freshness factors for Willie and Arthur. And Grace? I was actually looking forward to this topic to jog my memory about who else sang "When We Were Young". I guess that wasn't in a voting round? I feel like it happened just this year.

Yellow - Alex Preston, Willie Spence

In My Place - Louis Knight, Arthur Gunn

Fix You - Majesty Rose, Ashley Hess, Grace Kinstler

You Are So Beautiful - Taylor Hicks, Danny Gokey, Jessica Sanchez, Rayvon Owen, MacKenzie Bourg, Willie Spence

Simple Man - Bucky Covington, Lee DeWyze, Trent Harmon, Cade Foehner, Wade Cota, Arthur Gunn

12 minutes ago, thenghreport said:

Yep, good work.

 

Man, I would love to see the following people again:

 

Jessica Sanchez

Angie Miller

Jena Irene

Alex Preston

Same. I didn't even watch much of S13 for some reason so getting a second chance at Jena and Alex would be cool. I was also a huge fan of both Hollie and Skylar in S11 so I'd add them to that list.

Also, I'm guessing you just went by "year of birth=1993 or later"? Because I've also got Katie Stevens (Season 9, 8th place) and Mackenzie Bourg (Season 15, 4th place) on my list--both of them born in late 1992, so they should still be eligible. (Katie for sure, since her birthday's in December. Mackenzie, it's an interesting one, because he does turn 29 a few days before the deadline for contestants on the young end to turn 15, but for some reason there's actually a good 3.5 months where it's fine if you're already 29.)

Well it's fine because it looks like just like she mistakenly included everyone born after 1/1/92 but before 6/2/92, you omitted everyone born after 6/2/92 but before 1/1/93. Which on the finalists side is just Katie Stevens and Mackenzie Bourg, but her list also includes semifinalists so I don't know which of the others on her list don't actually belong (I can confidently assure you that Aubrey Cleland and Charlie Askew do, though, since I have them on my list as the 11th and 12 place finishers rather than as mere "semifinalists" due to that silly Wild Card vote-off for an 11th spot on the tour despite them only having a Top 10 for finalists that year).

The reason I didn't bother including semifinalists in my list is because I used WNTS to create my list, and they didn't bother dredging up dates of birth for all the semifinalists for all seasons. Actually I think the seasons they got lazy on, S14 and probably S15, they didn't do it for the finalists either but Wikipedia was able to help me with that. I haven't updated my list since the start of the ABC era but that's only a few years old so there probably aren't too many age-outs. (Though sadly, one of S17's biggest snubs has aged out.)

Argh, somehow double-posted.

19 hours ago, Elliott said:

Idol hasn't had an all-male F3 since 2009... in a season with (objectively) the weakest female cast, where the last female was a Latina teenager who had been in the bottom three times prior to her elimination.

 

The southern housewives had no problem backing a young female rocker on The Voice like two or three years ago.

Wow. Given the supposed advantage that men have, it's amazing that we've had an all-female Final 5 more recently than an all-male Final 3.

Actually, come to think of it...through the first 18 seasons, we've had 11 instances of the winner and runner-up being different genders, 5 where they were both male, and 2 where they were both female. But in the 5 all-male pairings, only once was the third-place finisher also male, and that season had a female finish fourth. Whereas both of the seasons with an all-female pairing, the entire Top 4 was female, and in one of those the fifth-place finisher was also female!

Seems like when it's a girl's year, it's usually fairly obvious. Last year was a major exception, of course, with a 4/1 male-female split in the Top 5 and the lone female winning, but that was the first time that a female won when it wasn't at the very least 2-1 females by Top 3, and only one FOX-era female champion so much as had a 2-2 split at Top 4 (Carrie Underwood).

Actually, in a weird way this makes sense. If there are people who tend to always vote for one particular gender, it's not surprising that even when one gender has the early advantage, it'd take a long time to finish the other gender off. I feel like 3-1 male might actually be the most common Final Four rather than 2-2...let me just tally it up...

S1: 1-3

S2: 3-1

S3: 0-4

S4: 2-2

S5: 3-1

S6: 1-3

S7: 3-1

S8: 3-1

S9: 3-1

S10: 2-2

S11: 2-2

S12: 0-4

S13: 2-2

S14: 3-1

S15: 3-1

S16: 2-2

S17: 3-1

S18: 3-1

Yeah, I was right. 50% of the time, the Final Four is 3 guys and 1 girl. (It amazes me that I'm able to confidently say that even about the three ABC era seasons, none of which had a show with exactly four performers. For Seasons 16 and 18, it's because all of the multiple cuts from 5 were of the same gender; for Season 17, it's because America did vote in a Top 4 and there was a save, and ABC-era voting patterns say that anyone saved by the judges is immediately eliminated again so I can confidently declare that Wade was 4th and Laci Kaye 5th.)

What will this year bring? I'm tempted to say "hopefully this will be the year that I can't definitively determine the gender makeup of the Final Four", but in both of the 3-person Finale years, the gender with the 2-1 advantage in the show still produced the winner so the idea that having two guys as her opponents would help Casey win is largely unfounded, not to mention one of those guys would certainly be Willie and regardless of which of the other two guys it is, that trio probably favors Willie (more so if it's Chayce, but probably for Caleb as well). Now if it was Willie, Grace, and Caleb/Chayce, that one probably favors Caleb/Chayce.

5 minutes ago, mrsvaledictorian2017 said:

Here’s a list that I just made of the contestants I believe can still audition. It’s a long one.

Allison Iraheta - American Idol Season 8 Top 4 Finalist

Jasmine Murray - American Idol Season 8 Top 13 Finalist

Aaron Kelly - American Idol Season 9 Top 5 Finalist

Katie Stevens - American Idol Season 9 Top 8 Finalist

Haeley Vaughn - American Idol Season 9 Top Top 20 Finalist

Lauren Alaina - American Idol Season 10 Top 2 Runner Up

Thia Megia - American Idol Season 10 Top 10 Finalist

Brett Loewenstern - American Idol Season 10 Top 24 Finalist

Robbie Rosen - American Idol Season 10 Top 24 Finalist

Jessica Sanchez - American Idol Season 11 Top 2 Runner Up

Joshua Ledet - American Idol Season 11 Top 3 Finalist

Hollie Cavanagh - American Idol Season 11 Top 4 Finalist

Skylar Laine - American Idol Season 11 Top 5 Finalist

DeAndre Brackensick - American Idol Season 11 Top 8 Finalist

Shannon Magrane - American Idol Season 11 Top 11 Finalist

Jeremy Rosado - American Idol Season 11 Top 13 Finalist

Brielle Von Hugel - American Idol Season 11 Top 25 Finalist

Eben Franckewitz - American Idol Season 11 Top 25 Finalist

Angie Miller - American Idol Season 12 Top 3 Finalist

Amber Holcomb - American Idol Season 12 Top 4 Finalist

Burnell Taylor - American Idol Season 12 Top 7 Finalist

Devin Velez - American Idol Season 12 Top 8 Finalist

Zoanette Johnson - American Idol Season 12 Top 20 Finalist

Aubrey Cleland - American Idol Season 12 Top 20 Finalist

Adriana Latonio - American Idol Season 12 Top 20 Finalist

Breanna Steer - American Idol Season 12 Top 20 Finalist

Charlie Askew - American Idol Season 12 Top 20 Finalist

Elijah Liu - American Idol Season 12 Top 20 Finalist

Jenny Beth Willis - American Idol Season 12 Top 40 Finalist

Shubha Vedula - American Idol Season 12 Top 40 Finalist

Isabelle Pasqualone - American Idol Season 12 Top 40 Finalist

Melinda Ademi - American Idol Season 12 Top 40 Finalist

Juliana Chahayed - American Idol Season 12 Top 40 Finalist

Rachel Hale - American Idol Season 12 Top 40 Finalist

David Oliver Willis - American Idol Season 12 Top 40 Finalist

Jena Irene - American Idol Season 13 Top 2 Runner Up

Alex Preston - American Idol Season 13 Top 3 Finalist

Sam Woolf - American Idol Season 13 Top 5 Finalist

Malaya Watson - American Idol Season 13 Top 8 Finalist

Majesty Rose - American Idol Season 13 Top 9 Finalist

MK Nobilette - American Idol Season 13 Top 10 Finalist

Emily Piriz -  American Idol Season 13 Top 12 Finalist

Bria Anai - American Idol Season 13 Top 20 Finalist

Briana Oakley - American Idol Season 13 Top 20 Finalist

Marriage Sellars - American Idol Season 13 Top 20 Finalist

Malcolm Allen - American Idol Season 13 Top 20 Finalist

Spencer Lloyd - American Idol Season 13 Top 20 Finalist

Andrina Brogden - American Idol Season 13 Top 30 Finalist

Kenzie Hall - American Idol Season 13 Top 30 Finalist

Jillian Jensen - American Idol Season 13 Top 30 Finalist

Brandy Neelly - American Idol Season 13 Top 30 Finalist

Austin Wolfe - American Idol Season 13 Top 30 Finalist

Jordan Brisbane - American Idol Season 13 Top 30 Finalist

Ethan Harris - American Idol Season 13 Top 30 Finalist

Briston Maroney - American Idol Season 13 Top 30 Finalist

Casey Thrasher - American Idol Season 13 Top 30 Finalist

Clark Beckham - American Idol Season 14 Top 2 Runner Up

Jax - American Idol Season 14 Top 3 Finalist

Tyanna Jones - American Idol Season 14 Top 5 Finalist

Quentin Alexander - American Idol Season 14 Top 6 Finalist

Qaasim Middleton - American Idol Season 14 Top 8 Finalist

Adanna Duru - American Idol Season 14 Top 10 Finalist

Maddie Walker - American Idol Season 14 Top 11 Finalist

Sarina Joe Crow - American Idol Season 14 Top 12 Finalist

Adam Ezegelian - American Idol Season 14 Top 16 Finalist

Alexis Gomez - American Idol Season 14 Top 16 Finalist

Loren Lott - American Idol Season 14 Top 16 Finalist

Riley Bria - American Idol Season 14 Top 24 Finalist

Trevor Douglas - American Idol Season 14 Top 24 Finalist

Michael Simeon - American Idol Season 14 Top 24 Finalist

Savion Wright - American Idol Season 14 Top 24 Finalist

Shannon Berthiaume - American Idol Season 14 Top 24 Finalist

Lovey James - American Idol Season 14 Top 24 Finalist

Shi Scott - American Idol Season 14 Top 24 Finalist

Katherine Winston - American Idol Season 14 Top 24 Finalist

LaPorsha Renae - American Idol Season 15 Top 2 Runner Up

Dalton Rapattoni - American Idol Season 15 Top 3 Finalist

MacKenzie Bourg - American Idol Season 15 Top 4 Finalist

Sonika Vaid - American Idol Season 15 Top 5 Finalist

Tristan McIntosh - American Idol Season 15 Top 6 Finalist

Lee Jean - American Idol Season 15 Top 7 Finalist

Avalon Young - American Idol Season 15 Top 8 Finalist

Gianna Isabella - American Idol Season 15 Top 9 Finalist

Olivia Rox - American Idol Season 15 Top 10 Finalist

Thomas Stringfellow - American Idol Season 15 Top 14 Finalist

Manny Torres - American Idol Season 15 Top 14 Finalist

Jenn Blosil - American Idol Season 15 Top 14 Finalist

Jeneve Rose Mitchell - American Idol Season 15 Top 14 Finalist

James VIII - American Idol Season 15 Top 24 Finalist

Emily Brooke - American Idol Season 15 Top 24 Finalist

Amelia Eisenhauer - American Idol Season 15 Top 24 Finalist

Stephany Negrete - American Idol Season 15 Top 24 Finalist

Jenna Renae - American Idol Season 15 Top 24 Finalist

Shelbie Z - American Idol Season 15 Top 24 Finalist

 

I got lazy with the ABC Version of American Idol  Contestants since it is more recent and people will remember who these contestants are a lot better than the FOX Version of American Idol Contestants

 

American Idol Season 16

 

1  Layla Spring 

2  Michael J. Woodard 

3  Gabby Barrett 

4  Michelle Sussett 

5  Dominique 

6  Trevor McBane 

7  Ron Bultongez 

8  Alyssa Raghu 

9  Catie Turner 

10 Jurnee 

11  Shannon O'Hara 

12  Kay Kay 

13  Amelia Hammer Harris 

14  Brandon Diaz 

15  Adam Sanders (as Ada Vox) 

16  Jonny Brenns 

17  Mara Justine 

18  Caleb Lee Hutchinson 

19  Garrett Jacobs 

20  Cade Foehner 

21  Effie Passero 

22  Dennis Lorenzo 

 

American Idol Season 17

 

1  Alyssa Raghu 

2  Madison VanDenburg 

3  Logan Johnson 

4  Dimitrius Graham 

5  Ashley Hess 

6  Laci Kaye Booth 

7  Walker Burroughs 

8  Ryan Hammond 

9  Kate Barnette 

10  Evelyn Cormier 

11  Uché 

12  Alejandro Aranda 

13  Jeremiah Lloyd Harmon 

14  Riley Thompson

15  Shawn Robinson

16  Raquel Trinidad 

17  Bumbly 

18  Wade Cota 

19  Eddie Island 

 

American Idol Season 18

 

1. Nick Merico 
2. Dewayne Crocker Jr. 
3. Louis Knight  
4. Faith Becnel 
5. Jonny West 
6. Franklin Boone 
7. Aliana Jester
8. Sophia James   
9. Kimmy Gabriela 
10. Cyniah Elise   
11. Makayla Phillips 
12. Lauren Spencer-Smith 
13. Olivia Ximines 
14. Arthur Gunn
15. Lauren Mascitti 

 

American Idol Season 19

 

1. Casey Bishop - Depends if she wins or not
2. Ava August 
3. Caleb Kennedy - Depends if he wins or not
4. Liahona Olayan 
5. Hannah Everhart 
6. Alyssa Wray 
7. Wyatt Pike 
8. Alanis Sophia 
9. Mary Jo Young 
10. Deshawn Goncalves 
11. Grace Kinstler - Depends if she wins or not
12. Anilee List 
13. Cecil Ray 
14. Willie Spence - Depends if he wins or not
15. Hunter Metts 
16. Colin Jamieson 
17. Alana 
18. Andrea Valles 
19. Beane 
20. Chayce Beckham - Depends if he wins or not
21. Cassandra Coleman 
22. Jason Warrior 
23. Madison Watkins
24. Graham DeFranco 

 

Oh, you went the extra mile and had the semifinalists too! Though just from the finalists, I can tell you that a few of those are too old, specifically Alison Iraheta, Jasmine Murray, Joshua Ledet, Jeremy Rosado, Majesty Rose, and Clark Beckham.

It's an understandable mistake, though; all of these contestants were born after January 1, 1992 but before the cutoff date of June 2, 1992.

Yeah, I find it hilarious that they say that the only ones ineligible by rank are "the 19 winners" when literally no one from Paula's time as a judge would be eligible by age. (Specifically Paula's; Season 9 still has a couple of contestants that get in under the wire.)

...Wait, I'm looking at that list... (Yes, at one point during the hiatus year, I got bored enough to take the dates of birth listed for the FOX era contestants on WNTS and make a sortable Excel Spreadsheet out of them. I like data.)

Okay, I'm fine with this now. The potential returnees from Season 11 alone make this worthwhile (Jessica, Hollie, and Skylar are all young enough), and Seasons 12 and 13 also have multiple Top 4 finishers still young enough (Angie and Amber, Jena and Alex).

Standard spacing rates apply.

1. Casey Bishop - “Ironic” (Alanis Morissette)

2. Willie Spence - “Yellow” (Coldplay)

3. Grace Kinstler - “When We Were Young” (Adele)
4. Willie Spence - “You Are So Beautiful” (Joe Cocker)

5. Caleb Kennedy - “Violet Hill” (Coldplay)

6. Chayce Beckham - “Mamma” (Chayce Beckham)

7. Chayce Beckham - “Magic” (Coldplay)

8. Caleb Kennedy - “Mama Said” (Caleb Kennedy)

9. Casey Bishop - “Paradise” (Coldplay)

10. Hunter Metts - “The River” (Hunter Metts)

11. Grace Kinstler - “Fix You” (Coldplay)

12. Hunter Metts - “Everglow” (Coldplay)

13. Arthur Gunn - “Simple Man” (Lynyrd Skynyrd)

14. Arthur Gunn - “In My Place” (Coldplay)

Overall:

1. Willie Spence

2. Casey Bishop*

3. Chayce Beckham

4. Caleb Kennedy

5. Grace Kinstler

6. Hunter Metts

7. Arthur Gunn

*Oddly enough, Casey has Hunter to thank for her second place finish on my card. Going into "The River", she was one point behind Chayce on my card, but when it slotted in as being better than "Fix You" but worse than "Paradise", it necessitated me adjusting my score for "Paradise", giving her a one-point lead over Chayce.

58 minutes ago, Shasta357 said:

Am not a Casey hater! I just don't always think she picks the best songs for a competition. That being said, a Grace, Casey and Willie (or MAYBE Chayce) final 3 is ideal for me.

I think I'd have to go with Casey/Chayce/Willie, or maybe Casey/Chayce/Grace but I don't think Grace has really been choosing the best songs for her. It even showed tonight when Chris Martin had to talk her into going with the other of the two songs she was considering. ...Yeah, actually, I've got to go with Casey/Chayce/Willie. Willie's just too consistent, he might be the best pure vocalist although Casey's catching up.

I still want Casey to win, but I wouldn't mind getting yet another WGWG if it was Chayce Beckham. He's my type of artist too.

1 minute ago, Daillon said:

Thank god lol. Seriously thought Casey was a goner.

 

I would have switched Caleb with Hunter, but Caleb did better tonight so it’s fair, and I don’t think Hunter had anything else to show

We're on the same page. Arthur leaving was the only "must" for me, and Caleb did better this week so even though Hunter might've had a slightly better portfolio over the course of the show, it wasn't by enough.

3 minutes ago, holinessss said:

4 minutes ago, ScarletDevilCCX said:

I feel like Arthur and Hunter should go home. Wouldn't be disappointed if Caleb left instead of Hunter since this was the first time I've liked Caleb, but Arthur's non-negotiable.

i predicted that as well

That wasn't a prediction; it was an opinion.

And apparently one that America agreed with. Could not have been happier with the results reveal: the four that I absolutely wanted to stay were the first four revealed safe, and the one I decided on as my #5 got the fifth spot.