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post Jan 4th 2012, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(Upside @ Jan 4th 2012, 10:12 PM) *

If Tupac and other dead celebrities can have thriving careers years after their death, it should not be difficult to keep David and his music in the public eye even without David present.

People say long absences are not a problem for established stars. Yes, David is not as big in the US as he was after Idol but he's pretty big and established in Asia. I refuse to believe that interest in Asia will just evaporate during the two years he is absent. The Asian fans and media will play any new music David releases during his absence and report on any news released by his team. With the Internet and twitter, any reporting in Asia can be quickly shared across the world, including in North America.

So with the greatest respect, I absolutely disagree with those who say David will be out of the public eye during his mission. I believe that he and his team have been building the foundation since he left Jive to allow his career to continue during his mission. A plan is in place. During the mission, I suspect his team will be executing the plan and giving us regular doses of David. David can focus on his mission and let his team do the work.


My argument was in regards to him personally giving his fans updates. I'm not saying he will lose interest from his fans and that his music won't be in the public eye. Heck, I hope his music never fades from the public eye.

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post Jan 4th 2012, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(JORDAN_FAN @ Jan 4th 2012, 10:32 PM) *

My argument was in regards to him personally giving his fans updates. I'm not saying he will lose interest from his fans and that his music won't be in the public eye. Heck, I hope his music never fades from the public eye.



Whoever manages his career during his absence will be someone he has total faith and confidence in and who he can trust will promote him and his career in a way that is consistent with his values. I wonder who that will be? I'm sure he has given a lot of thought to this and may already have chosen that person. Probably won't be Melinda Bell or Jared Paul laughing.gif

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post Jan 5th 2012, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(istersay @ Jan 4th 2012, 6:25 AM) *

He's not going on a Mission to have fun or for promotion, it's a sacrifice. huh.gif some people are expecting way too much, he will be off the radar for the most part.


Yeah, i agree he will be disconnected from the world that involve his career, Sacrifice? idk, i thought is more Service in the idealist minds of many people, true is the he wants to fulfill this rite of passage very important on his Mormon Culture (his reasons to take this route still personals though, i'm sure are differents for each young LDS Miss. ) wink.gif ...but I'm sure too that he don't gonna leave without organizing his business before. cool.gif

QUOTE(Upside @ Jan 4th 2012, 10:54 PM) *

Whoever manages his career during his absence will be someone he has total faith and confidence in and who he can trust will promote him and his career in a way that is consistent with his values. I wonder who that will be? I'm sure he has given a lot of thought to this and may already have chosen that person. Probably won't be Melinda Bell or Jared Paul laughing.gif


His dad? is what you want to said ? unsure.gif ....just my guess, like has been since his younger days ....pretty sure is an aspect that don't gonna change. noexpression.gif


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QUOTE(Upside @ Jan 4th 2012, 9:12 PM) *

If Tupac and other dead celebrities can have thriving careers years after their death, it should not be difficult to keep David and his music in the public eye even without David present.

People say long absences are not a problem for established stars. Yes, David is not as big in the US as he was after Idol but he's pretty big and established in Asia. I refuse to believe that interest in Asia will just evaporate during the two years he is absent. The Asian fans and media will play any new music David releases during his absence and report on any news released by his team. With the Internet and twitter, any reporting in Asia can be quickly shared across the world, including in North America.

So with the greatest respect, I absolutely disagree with those who say David will be out of the public eye during his mission. I believe that he and his team have been building the foundation since he left Jive to allow his career to continue during his mission. A plan is in place. During the mission, I suspect his team will be executing the plan and giving us regular doses of David. David can focus on his mission and let his team do the work.


His US fanbase is in support life since long time ago , i agree maybe Asia can save his career in the future,but for this side of the world he need to come back with something more credible, people knows he has the talent, but him need to gain that credibility that he will want a career and that he don't still seeing everyone in the business like evils and potential dangers for his morals , that tbh i think limited his possibilities to work with a good mentor and better entourage .... just saying. pinch.gif

And about the examples you made, about the absence of some artist for years, true is that the problem with David is that his still haven't an specified niche in the music business, the more close is Christmas and Inspirational music..... and that isn't just enough from most of the people and even for many of his fans, that are not interested in tha side of him .

I wish now he realized before that good music can be expressed with deep thoughts on the lyrics, without to impose vetoes to some subjects ,because love is a universal feeling, happiness and unhappiness are equally part of the life , lyrics should be the way to people to relate to some situations not only to be happy , but to remember, be nostalgic or make catharsis of the deep emotions represed in their hearts ..... and idk if this realizaton can come in the future. blarg.gif

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QUOTE(tibitibi @ Jan 4th 2012, 9:25 PM) *

Yeah, i agree he will be disconnected from the world that involve his career, Sacrifice? idk, i thought is more Service in the idealist minds of many people, true is the he wants to fulfill this rite of passage very important on his Mormon Culture (his reasons to take this route still personals though, i'm sure are differents for each young LDS Miss. ) wink.gif ...but I'm sure too that he don't gonna leave without organizing his business before. cool.gif
His dad? is what you want to said ? unsure.gif ....just my guess, like has been since his younger days ....pretty sure is an aspect that don't gonna change. noexpression.gif

At this point of his life why not, his dad is the best person how understands him right now.

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QUOTE(Upside @ Jan 4th 2012, 9:12 PM) *

If Tupac and other dead celebrities can have thriving careers years after their death, it should not be difficult to keep David and his music in the public eye even without David present.

I'm sorry but Tupac was already an icon when he died and other dead celebrities with thriving careers were legend too. David's far, FAR away from their status. Let's not be delusional. The only time during his mission when he could possibly grab headlines is a) if he gets kicked out of the mission *fingers crossed* or b ) if some family scandal comes out or c) when he returns. That's it.

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QUOTE(JohnA @ Jan 5th 2012, 9:38 AM) *

I'm sorry but Tupac was already an icon when he died and other dead celebrities with thriving careers were legend too. David's far, FAR away from their status. Let's not be delusional. The only time during his mission when he could possibly grab headlines is a) if he gets kicked out of the mission *fingers crossed* or b ) if some family scandal comes out or c) when he returns. That's it.
I'm not so sure him getting kicked out of his mission would be a good idea. He doesn't need bad publicity!


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QUOTE(JohnA @ Jan 5th 2012, 9:38 AM) *

I'm sorry but Tupac was already an icon when he died and other dead celebrities with thriving careers were legend too. David's far, FAR away from their status. Let's not be delusional. The only time during his mission when he could possibly grab headlines is a) if he gets kicked out of the mission *fingers crossed* or b ) if some family scandal comes out or c) when he returns. That's it.


My point is that in certain Asian countries, David is big and established. I don't think it is delusional to make the comparison of David to established artists in those countries. Believe it or not, there is a thriving music industry outside the US and thanks to the Internet, we can pretty well access info from Asia instantaneously.


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QUOTE(Upside @ Jan 5th 2012, 12:52 PM) *

Believe it or not, there is a thriving music industry outside the US

I know it. And that means Asia has their own musical legends and tons of current popular acts much bigger than David. Yeah, he has quite a fanbase there too. But you're really optimistic if you think he's big enough to grab headlines while doing nothing for 2 years and that being completely absent won't hurt his career there.

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I'm not so sure him getting kicked out of his mission would be a good idea. He doesn't need bad publicity!
As if anyone but hardcore Mormons considered it 'bad publicity'. And frankly, bad publicity for 2 days is better than wasting time for 2 years. And also, unless you commit serious crime (OJ Simpson) or you are complete trainwreck (Lindsay), then there's really no such thing as bad publicity.

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QUOTE(JohnA @ Jan 5th 2012, 10:38 AM) *

I'm sorry but Tupac was already an icon when he died and other dead celebrities with thriving careers were legend too. David's far, FAR away from their status. Let's not be delusional. The only time during his mission when he could possibly grab headlines is a) if he gets kicked out of the mission *fingers crossed* or b ) if some family scandal comes out or c) when he returns. That's it.


Believe me, there is no way on this planet that David will be kicked off his mission. The only possible reason would be if he got extremely sick and had to come home early. So if that's what you're hoping for, good luck. haha


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QUOTE(JohnA @ Jan 5th 2012, 3:30 PM) *

As if anyone but hardcore Mormons considered it 'bad publicity'. And frankly, bad publicity for 2 days is better than wasting time for 2 years. And also, unless you commit serious crime (OJ Simpson) or you are complete trainwreck (Lindsay), then there's really no such thing as bad publicity.
He'd have to do something pretty bad to get kicked off the mission. And if he did something that bad, a lot of fans might lose respect for him. He is known for his squeaky clean image.


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QUOTE(JohnA @ Jan 5th 2012, 3:30 PM) *

As if anyone but hardcore Mormons considered it 'bad publicity'. And frankly, bad publicity for 2 days is better than wasting time for 2 years. And also, unless you commit serious crime (OJ Simpson) or you are complete trainwreck (Lindsay), then there's really no such thing as bad publicity.

You are hoping for a repeat of Latter Days. wub.gif shifty.gif

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QUOTE(auburritoarchie @ Jan 5th 2012, 4:11 PM) *

The only possible reason would be if he got extremely sick and had to come home early. So if that's what you're hoping for, good luck. haha
Of course not. There are things that wouldn't cause any harm to him or anyone else and are actually great that may 'cause him to get kicked outta the mission giggle.gif

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He'd have to do something pretty bad to get kicked off the mission.
That depends on your definition of "bad things to do".

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QUOTE(JohnA @ Jan 5th 2012, 5:49 PM) *

Of course not. There are things that wouldn't cause any harm to him or anyone else and are actually great that may 'cause him to get kicked outta the mission giggle.gif

That depends on your definition of "bad things to do".

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QUOTE(Upside @ Jan 4th 2012, 11:54 PM) *

Whoever manages his career during his absence will be someone he has total faith and confidence in and who he can trust will promote him and his career in a way that is consistent with his values. I wonder who that will be? I'm sure he has given a lot of thought to this and may already have chosen that person. Probably won't be Melinda Bell or Jared Paul laughing.gif


Bahahaha! Let's hope there is someone else out there who can do the job. original.gif


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QUOTE(JORDAN_FAN @ Jan 5th 2012, 6:53 PM) *

Bahahaha! Let's hope there is someone else out there who can do the job. original.gif


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Funny how David and his team are actually doing a lot of the things I had hoped for at the start of this thread. I'm not taking credit. Just shows that all the over the top negativity about David being "gone" from the music scene for two years is not happening. Looks like his team will be taking steps to keep him in the public eye while he's away. New music, pictures, videos. Who knows what else they have planned.

Wish other fans had posted more suggestions about what else David's team could do during the mission rather than saying that nothing could be done, drowning themselves in self pity or complaining that David was destroying his career. May be true but absolutely not constructive or helpful. David is the most positive and upbeat person I've ever come across. Sort of ironic that some of his biggest fans are so negative and pessimistic. Just my two cents. Feel free to disagree but please do add a suggestion about what David's team can do during the mission to keep David and his music in the public eye. It's not too late.

PS: I think that Kari or Kari and his dad will be managing his career during his absence.

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David says he will try to update his fans with email or video when time permits during the mission. original.gif


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ok well this makes me think of a big weird question!!! what if the mormon missionaries who are gay happen to hold hands with or kiss their missionary partner who is also gay? would that be considered inappropriate? would that break the rules and would they be sent home? seems so ironic, they are trying to help/serve a church that does not approve of them.


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It is not openly talked about, but yes, gay Mormon guys do go on missions. Some come out after the mission; others don't marry and remain celebrate; and others remain closeted and marry a woman anyone so they can stay in the church. The Internet is abound with stories from currently practicing Mormons and ex-Mormons about these situations.

David will be releasing gospel music (usually code for LDS hymns) during his absence. Actually, I would be surprised if the music is not LDS.


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