Survivor Redemption Island Finale Discussion Options

[D.J.]

It's gonna get good.

[VanDiemen]

Wow to all the Andrea love. She was just as bad as Natalie as far as doing nothing in this game. Ashley meanwhile won and almost won immunities. She was definitively a player down the stretch and would have won the million if she'd won the last challenge.

I'm sick of the holier than thou, blah blah BS leveled by the loser jurors at the finalists. Who, after 21 (now 22) seasons, didn't lie and deceive to win it all.

As someone who has always hated Rob, I couldn't believe I was rooting for him to be safe week to week and eventually win. I blame Russell for making Rob look so much better by comparison. Either way I felt about Rob, there really was nobody else who deserved the million.

This post has been edited by VanDiemen: May 16th 2011, 9:18 PM

[TiredOfSex]

Wow to all the Andrea love. She was just as bad as Natalie as far as doing nothing in this game. Ashley meanwhile won and almost won immunities. She was definitively a player down the stretch and would have won the million if she'd won the last challenge.

Lol, you're crazy if you think that Ashley would've beaten Rob at the finals. Ashley was basically his pawn the entire game. Winning immunities doesn't mean you did anything strategic within the game. I give more credit to someone who recognizes the different scenarios and tries to make moves to affect the game to give themselves the best chance of winning than someone who just wins an immunity. Was Andrea successful in convincing people? No. But it's still more respectable than what Ashley did.

As someone who has always hated Rob, I couldn't believe I was rooting for him to be safe week to week and eventually win. I blame Russell for making Rob look so much better by comparison. Either way I felt about Rob, there really was nobody else who deserved the million.

I don't think Russell made Rob look better. Rob was just that good. Also, keep in mind that no matter how good you are, luck still plays a big part in it. Like Rob even admitted, if he had been placed on Zapatera, he might not have made it as far as he did. He was very lucky to be placed on a tribe with mindless zombies and young, impressionable girls.

This post has been edited by TiredOfSex: May 16th 2011, 9:45 PM

[VanDiemen]

Lol, you're crazy if you think that Ashley would've beaten Rob at the finals. Ashley was basically his pawn the entire game. Winning immunities doesn't mean you did anything strategic within the game. I give more credit to someone who recognizes the different scenarios and tries to make moves to affect the game to give themselves the best chance of winning than someone who just wins an immunity. Was Andrea successful in convincing people? No. But it's still more respectable than what Ashley did.

No I'm saying Rob would've been voted out if Ashley had won that final immunity challenge. Now if Ashley, Natalie and Phillip were dumb enough to keep Rob around and vote off Phillip instead, than you are right. As possible as that foolish scenario could have been, I have some faith Ashley and Natalie would have been smart enough to see the benefit of ousting Rob.

Andrea desperately trying to save her ass the day or two after returning from Redemption Island to the people who voted her out, wasn't exactly an exercise of someone recognizing the different scenarios in the game and trying to affect the game. Other than that brief instance, she was one of those young, impressionable pawns whether it was for Matt or Rob. I do give credit to Andrea for winning that last Redemption challenge which is a testament to the value of winning challenges.

This post has been edited by VanDiemen: May 16th 2011, 10:28 PM

[TiredOfSex]

No I'm saying Rob would've been voted out if Ashley had won that final immunity challenge. Now if Ashley, Natalie and Phillip were dumb enough to keep Rob around and vote off Phillip instead, than you are right. As possible as that foolish scenario could have been, I have some faith Ashley and Natalie would have been smart enough to see the benefit of ousting Rob.

Andrea desperately trying to save her ass the day or two after returning from Redemption Island to the people who voted her out, wasn't exactly an exercise of someone recognizing the different scenarios in the game and trying to affect the game. Other than that brief instance, she was one of those young, impressionable pawns whether it was for Matt or Rob. I do give credit to Andrea for winning that last Redemption challenge which is a testament to the value of winning challenges.

I doubt they would have gotten rid of Rob. Natalie was tied to him. Ashley was too, although not as much as Natalie. Plus Phillip was tied to Rob as well. Rob had his hands in everyone. So if Ashley was smart enough to know that she couldn't beat Rob, she not only had to convince Natalie, but she also had to convince Phillip. There is no way in hell those two would even be on speaking terms. But she wasn't smart enough to realize that she couldn't beat Rob. Even when Andrea pointed it out, she got defensive and just stated she made it farther than her . Also, they had their chance to get rid of Rob when Ralph and Steve approached them. If they didn't do it then (when it was their best opportunity), why do it now?

How was Andrea an impressionable pawn for Matt when she helped to blindside him that second time? That makes no sense at all. If she was really impressionable, then she would have let her personal feelings get in the way and not wanted to get rid of him. I think Andrea did recognize the different scenarios. She just never had the numbers on her side to do anything. Sure, she and Matt could have jumped ship when they merged, but then they would have just been on the bottom on that tribe. Plus, Matt was so wishy washy and incompetent, she was right not to join him. He would have had her placing her entire game in god's hands.

I do agree that Andrea didn't play that good of a game though. But she was not as mindless as Ashley and Natalie who were just pathetic.

This post has been edited by TiredOfSex: May 17th 2011, 2:34 AM