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QUOTE(crackthatwhip @ Nov 5th 2009, 4:21 AM) *

Here's a list of the writers and producers on each song

1. MUSIC AGAIN: Writer - Justin Hawkins, Producer - Rob Cavallo

2. FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT: Writers - Claude Kelly/Dr. Luke, Producer: Dr. Luke

3. WHATAYA WANT FROM ME: Writers: Pink, Max Martin, Johan Shellback,
Producers: Max Martin & Johan Shellback

4. STRUT: Writers: Adam Lambert, Kara DioGuardi, Greg Wells, Producer: Greg
Wells

5. SOAKED: Writer: Matthew Bellamy (MUSE), Producer: Rob Cavallo

6. SURE FIRE WINNERS: Writers: David Gamson, Alexander James, Oliver Lieber,
Producer: Rob Cavallo

7. A LOADED SMILE: Writer/Producer - Linda Perry

8. IF I HAD YOU: Writers- Max Martin, Johan Shellback, Savan Kotecha,
Producers: Max Martin & Johan Shellback

9. PICK U UP: Writers- Rivers Cuomo, Greg Wells, Adam Lambert. Producer - Greg
Wells

10. FEVER: Writers - Lady Gaga, Jeff Bhasker, Producer- Jeff Bhasker

11. SLEEPWALKER: Writers - Ryan Tedder, Aimee Mayo, Chris Lindsey, Producer-
Ryan Tedder

12. AFTERMATH: Writers- Adam Lambert, Alisan Porter, Ferras, Ely Rise.
Producer- Howard Benson

13. BROKEN OPEN: Writers- Greg Wells, Adam Lambert, Evan Bogart. Producer-
Greg Wells

BONUS TRACK:

14. TIME FOR MIRACLES: Writers - Alain Johannes, Natasha Shneider. Producer-
Rob Cavallo


And this is a fantastic article with quotes from Adam and some of his producers on the songs, etc. It's really tl;dr though.

http://www.calendarlive.com/la-ca-adam-lam...0,6244120.story

"I want to put it out there that I don't take myself all that seriously," he said. That's one of his mantras. "The dress-up supports that; the fantasy element supports it. People want to talk about whether I have rock cred, whether I'm selling out, the theatricality, the gay stuff. . . . Chill out! And just enjoy yourself. It's not that deep."

"He can sing almost any note on a guitar from the lowest to highest," said Cavallo, who thinks Lambert's sense of style and soul, combined with that range, puts him in the realm of the greats. "And if you're in the studio with him and say, 'Can we get a little more dirty?' he'll go 'Waaaaah!' And then the microphone is melted and the speakers have exploded."


thanks for posting about the songs and who was involved in them original.gif I hadn't really taken the time to look at the info yet


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QUOTE(kitten31 @ Nov 6th 2009, 3:00 AM) *

It makes more sense than before yes, but I don't agree with it. laughing.gif

SO you're saying that you don't like the songs now, but probably would like them with the visual? I still can't see how you can like the songs live, but not on the cd. They'll still sound the same. No, the visual spectacle will not be there on the cd, but the songs will still be the same. And the sound is a just as much part of the concert as the visual. tongue.gif

I can understand that people don't like adam's music, he is very polarizing after all, but I'm interested in why exactly it is that people say Adam will be great live, but not a good recording artist. He has the most amazing voice which can do practically anything he wants it to. He can portray various moods with it, and a lot of people do think he possess a lot of soul/emotions including people in the industry. Adam is also very creative and he writes, is involved in arrangements etc. Furthermore he has a certain vision of how he wants his music to sound. Is it because he has a background in theatre that people feel this way? Is it because he is seen as theatrical and therefore can't possibly be considered a 'proper musician/artist'? I've never understood what's so wrong about being theatrical anyway. Freddie, Kiss, Bowie, Lady Gaga, Aerosmith, MJ, gwen Stefani also to an extent Pink are all theatrical. Haven't stopped any of them selling records. I'm talking in general here btw, not aiming this at anyone in particular. original.gif


Ok, we can disagree huggy.gif It's only my opinion. I know many people share your views just as well as many sharing mine. Like I said before I really do admire and like Adam as a performer but, during Idol, it was never his mp3s I was clamoring to listen to. I DLed his videos instead and preferred LISTENING to Kris and Allison.

To me, Adam on CD is not moving. In my eyes he doesn't possess that soul and emotion like you say. He excites people through performance. I will keep giving him the benefit of the doubt though because his voice is so amazing I wish it could have a place in the recording industry. I just feel like maybe he's spent so many years in theatre that his musicality seems kind of forced and rehearsed. It's a lot more awesome for me to hear singers with rough and crazy voices that aren't totally polished.


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QUOTE(magicmusic @ Nov 5th 2009, 8:10 PM) *

Ok, we can disagree huggy.gif It's only my opinion. I know many people share your views just as well as many sharing mine. Like I said before I really do admire and like Adam as a performer but, during Idol, it was never his mp3s I was clamoring to listen to. I DLed his videos instead and preferred LISTENING to Kris and Allison.

To me, Adam on CD is not moving. In my eyes he doesn't possess that soul and emotion like you say. He excites people through performance. I will keep giving him the benefit of the doubt though because his voice is so amazing I wish it could have a place in the recording industry. I just feel like maybe he's spent so many years in theatre that his musicality seems kind of forced and rehearsed. It's a lot more awesome for me to hear singers with rough and crazy voices that aren't totally polished.

You prefer listening to Kris and Allison...but aren't Allison's songs polished and stuff? FIBOU sounds pretty polished to me.
W/e, it's your opinion.


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QUOTE(Sarahx3 @ Nov 6th 2009, 10:15 AM) *

You prefer listening to Kris and Allison...but aren't Allison's songs polished and stuff? FIBOU sounds pretty polished to me.
W/e, it's your opinion.


I'm not a HUGE fan of FIBOU. I think all the Idol singles are too polished. I just mean I prefer the tone of Kris and Allison's voices.


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It's still going on?!!!! haha.gif haha.gif


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After hearing the snippets from Adam's album...I only like: Sleepwalker, Fever, and FYE!

I do want to hear Adam's whole album before I make a definite assessment on it but that's all I liked so far. I agree with magicmusic on Adam though. I do like his voice a lot and I think he is a talented performer but I also feel he lacks soul. I always felt there was something lacking in Adam's delivery with songs as well. He seemed to connect more with the songs like Tracks Of My Tears and Mad World than songs like Whole Lotta Love. Also I feel Adam is polarizing at times cause he can't find middle ground IMO! He either held back or exploded on stage. I always wanted Adam to just be a bit more natural. But I do love his nuances on stage and still respect as an artist nonetheless. grin.gif



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i thank they were pretty darn amazing!
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QUOTE(magicmusic @ Nov 5th 2009, 7:10 PM) *

Ok, we can disagree huggy.gif It's only my opinion. I know many people share your views just as well as many sharing mine. Like I said before I really do admire and like Adam as a performer but, during Idol, it was never his mp3s I was clamoring to listen to. I DLed his videos instead and preferred LISTENING to Kris and Allison.

To me, Adam on CD is not moving. In my eyes he doesn't possess that soul and emotion like you say. He excites people through performance. I will keep giving him the benefit of the doubt though because his voice is so amazing I wish it could have a place in the recording industry. I just feel like maybe he's spent so many years in theatre that his musicality seems kind of forced and rehearsed. It's a lot more awesome for me to hear singers with rough and crazy voices that aren't totally polished.

I just don't always get the sense that Adam knows the meaning behind the lyrics that he's singing pinch.gif ... that's why I find myself sometimes saying there's a "disconnect"... because the lyrics you're singing are supposed to have some intent behind them, some meaning. Some words require more emphasis than others, and if you fail to put the appropriate emphasis on them, it can suck the life right out of the song, or the "soul", if you will. The biggest example of this out of the snippets, for me, was in "Whataya Want From Me." Kara told him after he sang acapella in Hollywood, "It's not touching me here [putting both hands on her heart]... it doesn't feel genuine." ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK4EwHxRGxA ) ...I personally still feel he struggles with really genuinely connecting with the lyrics that he's singing on a consistent basis, but hopefully, he only improves on this with time yes.gif


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QUOTE(idolwatcher_1 @ Nov 6th 2009, 5:38 PM) *

I just don't always get the sense that Adam knows the meaning behind the lyrics that he's singing pinch.gif ... that's why I find myself sometimes saying there's a "disconnect"... because the lyrics you're singing are supposed to have some intent behind them, some meaning. Some words require more emphasis than others, and if you fail to put the appropriate emphasis on them, it can suck the life right out of the song, or the "soul", if you will. The biggest example of this out of the snippets, for me, was in "Whataya Want From Me." Kara told him after he sang acapella in Hollywood, "It's not touching me here [putting both hands on her heart]... it doesn't feel genuine." ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK4EwHxRGxA ) ...I personally still feel he struggles with really genuinely connecting with the lyrics that he's singing on a consistent basis, but hopefully, he only improves on this with time yes.gif


It seems like you are not going to stop.

The biggest example of kris sounding the same:All the snippets on his album.

I personally still feel Kris struggling every notes in every songs. He is fighting with the notes and I can see every veins on his neck so I can't even feel he connect with the lyrics.Maybe he's trying to connect with the notes.

Also,I hope he have a chance to improves on this with time because using his vein is not a proper way to sing. If he keep singing like this, his "soulful" voice will gone very soon.




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QUOTE(kissmonkey @ Nov 6th 2009, 7:27 PM) *

It seems like you are not going to stop.

The biggest example of kris sounding the same:All the snippets on his album.

I personally still feel Kris struggling every notes in every songs. He is fighting with the notes and I can see every veins on his neck so I can't even feel he connect with the lyrics.Maybe he's trying to connect with the notes.

Also,I hope he have a chance to improves on this with time because using his vein is not a proper way to sing. If he keep singing like this, his "soulful" voice will gone very soon.


Why do totally innocuous and hate-free comments seem to start fan wars around here? I really don't think idolwatcher was saying anything derogatory that deserved a Kris bash...

You know, not everyone likes Adam or Kris or Allison. We all have different favorites here and different opinions. I dunno. I just think we should be able to debate in a way that doesn't end in flameouts and closed threads.


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QUOTE(kissmonkey @ Nov 6th 2009, 2:27 AM) *

It seems like you are not going to stop.

The biggest example of kris sounding the same:All the snippets on his album.

I personally still feel Kris struggling every notes in every songs. He is fighting with the notes and I can see every veins on his neck so I can't even feel he connect with the lyrics.Maybe he's trying to connect with the notes.

Also,I hope he have a chance to improves on this with time because using his vein is not a proper way to sing. If he keep singing like this, his "soulful" voice will gone very soon.

noexpression.gif I give up.


People can make a new thread for Adam's album or songs if they want.


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