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post Feb 20th 2009, 7:07 PM
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I am posting this here because I think fans need to be aware of the nature of the Danny hate coming down. I'll just provide the link, not embed the video, because it's not positive.
http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20007164_20174011,00.html
I have always liked Michael Slezak and the Idolatry people, but I think I may be changing my mind. Here they are discussing Danny, and what they feel is his use of his wife's death to get votes. pinch.gif
The only thing I *kind of* agree with them on is the relative holding up the picture of Sophia and Danny while he performed. It was a little tasteless, I thought. However, I don't think Danny had any control over this either, or the fact the cameras focused on it. So it's not fair to blame him.

However, on the plus side, Michael Johns makes a visit, and there's some nice footage of David Cook during AI7.

Forgive me for posting this, but I think we need to be aware what we're up against.


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post Feb 20th 2009, 7:13 PM
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I can't even watch all of it... I gave up watching a lot of it


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post Feb 20th 2009, 7:17 PM
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the worst part about the hate is: i really like some other contestants but i can't even go into their threads because of the bashing.. like adam lamberts thread was bashing him the other day it was upsetting because i like both of them


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post Feb 20th 2009, 7:27 PM
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Sorry, but the way Lambert's fans act makes me dislike Adam even more than I already do. His fans are hateful to Danny and it's affecting my opinion of Adam, which is a shame.

This is like a replay of the David wars last season, only it seems even more venomous.

Danny--I guess you either love him or hate him. He certainly has made a strong impact, that's for sure. No one seems indifferent to him.

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post Feb 20th 2009, 8:10 PM
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QUOTE(manunitedFC @ Feb 20th 2009, 4:17 PM) *

the worst part about the hate is: i really like some other contestants but i can't even go into their threads because of the bashing.. like adam lamberts thread was bashing him the other day it was upsetting because i like both of them


When were we bashing? Maybe I wasn't there...

QUOTE(dcfreak @ Feb 20th 2009, 4:27 PM) *

Sorry, but the way Lambert's fans act makes me dislike Adam even more than I already do. His fans are hateful to Danny and it's affecting my opinion of Adam, which is a shame.
This is like a replay of the David wars last season, only it seems even more venomous.
Danny--I guess you either love him or hate him. He certainly has made a strong impact, that's for sure. No one seems indifferent to him.



Sorry that certain Adam fans are so disrespectful but I want to emphasize: its not all of us and by putting us all in that category is very disrespectful as well. I started out watching Idol ONLY because of Adam... because I knew him before and all that but Danny has intrigued me and I'm a fan of his now too.

What a certain Adam fan said yesterday was a joke made in very poor taste and a lot of us didn't find it funny regardless of the ones that did. I found it rather offensive and a joke that should have never been made and I want to apologize on behalf of Lamb Skanks for offending anyone. I did not make that comment but I wish to apologize because all of this drama is just not right.

Now you guys can be mad at ALL Adam fans or just be mad at the ones that deserve it. Its your choice.
I'm starting to doubt whether posting in here as a Danny fan is worth all this.

There is one thing all of us cannot deny: Adam and Danny are threats to each other. That doesn't mean, however, that his fans have to be threats to each other and hate each other.


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I'm tired of discussing it, really. ermm.gif The hate is unecessary, but I sometimes think the more that we, as his fans, pay attention to it, the worse it gets. Obviously he can't control how much the producers pimp his singing or his backstory. But, unfortunately, it's something not all people are going to get through their heads. noexpression.gif

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QUOTE(Elphiero @ Feb 20th 2009, 9:10 PM) *

Sorry that certain Adam fans are so disrespectful but I want to emphasize: its not all of us and by putting us all in that category is very disrespectful as well. I started out watching Idol ONLY because of Adam... because I knew him before and all that but Danny has intrigued me and I'm a fan of his now too.

What a certain Adam fan said yesterday was a joke made in very poor taste and a lot of us didn't find it funny regardless of the ones that did. I found it rather offensive and a joke that should have never been made and I want to apologize on behalf of Lamb Skanks for offending anyone. I did not make that comment but I wish to apologize because all of this drama is just not right.

Now you guys can be mad at ALL Adam fans or just be mad at the ones that deserve it. Its your choice.
I'm starting to doubt whether posting in here as a Danny fan is worth all this.

There is one thing all of us cannot deny: Adam and Danny are threats to each other. That doesn't mean, however, that his fans have to be threats to each other and hate each other.


i agree with this.. dont stop posting here flowers.gif
i never said/thought it was all adam fans because im an adam fan too hahah that would be a case of schizophrenia (sp?) haha.gif I think that hating an entire fan base because you hate certain people in it is childish..


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QUOTE(dcfreak @ Feb 20th 2009, 6:27 PM) *

Sorry, but the way Lambert's fans act makes me dislike Adam even more than I already do. His fans are hateful to Danny and it's affecting my opinion of Adam, which is a shame.

Please do not generalize all of his fans like that. Its not fair to the people that didn't do anything wrong. I am an Adam Lambert fan, but I love Danny too. yes.gif heart.gif


Quite a few Danny fans have been talking about how all the hating needs to stop, but then these videos get brought up and it just gets talked about more. huh.gif JMO.

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QUOTE(Elphiero @ Feb 20th 2009, 8:10 PM) *

When were we bashing? Maybe I wasn't there...
Sorry that certain Adam fans are so disrespectful but I want to emphasize: its not all of us and by putting us all in that category is very disrespectful as well. I started out watching Idol ONLY because of Adam... because I knew him before and all that but Danny has intrigued me and I'm a fan of his now too.

What a certain Adam fan said yesterday was a joke made in very poor taste and a lot of us didn't find it funny regardless of the ones that did. I found it rather offensive and a joke that should have never been made and I want to apologize on behalf of Lamb Skanks for offending anyone. I did not make that comment but I wish to apologize because all of this drama is just not right.

Now you guys can be mad at ALL Adam fans or just be mad at the ones that deserve it. Its your choice.
I'm starting to doubt whether posting in here as a Danny fan is worth all this.

There is one thing all of us cannot deny: Adam and Danny are threats to each other. That doesn't mean, however, that his fans have to be threats to each other and hate each other.


I happen to agree with you, and I know not all Adam fans act that way. I'm sorry if I implied that.
I really just wish everyone would get along, and respect other people's opinions and tastes, even if they don't agree. I hate fanwars, and they accomplish nothing. I apologize if I seemed like I was trying to start one.
I think there's a lot of hurt and bitterness on both sides, and I agree that both guys are threats to each other, but that's no reason why their fans can't get along. I mean, look at David C and David A. They hate the fact some of their fans are hating on each other, because they are such good friends themselves.
So please don't feel put off about posting in the Danny forum. There's a lot of love to go around.
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Not all Adam fans are that way. There are some but not all. I agree the hate has gone a bit too far. I'm trying my best to ignore it.



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QUOTE(shereen @ Feb 20th 2009, 10:30 PM) *

I never liked EW, so I'm not surprised.


I used to like Idolatry, but not so much anymore. sad.gif


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QUOTE(dcfreak @ Feb 20th 2009, 7:07 PM) *

I am posting this here because I think fans need to be aware of the nature of the Danny hate coming down. I'll just provide the link, not embed the video, because it's not positive.
http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20007164_20174011,00.html
I have always liked Michael Slezak and the Idolatry people, but I think I may be changing my mind. Here they are discussing Danny, and what they feel is his use of his wife's death to get votes. pinch.gif
The only thing I *kind of* agree with them on is the relative holding up the picture of Sophia and Danny while he performed. It was a little tasteless, I thought. However, I don't think Danny had any control over this either, or the fact the cameras focused on it. So it's not fair to blame him.

However, on the plus side, Michael Johns makes a visit, and there's some nice footage of David Cook during AI7.

Forgive me for posting this, but I think we need to be aware what we're up against.


I agreed, what his friends did was kinda irritating to me. But why didnt Jamar sit in that place instead of them?? wacko.gif


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Okay - yeah, what his friends did with the picture was a little overboard... however, I can tell that he (and his crew) are being very genuine about this whole thing, so I can't really knock it! I COMPLETELY disagree with them saying he's using this story to get ahead in the competition. That's ridiculous. You'd have to be satan himself if you were using a death of a loved one for any means.

Of COURSE he can't stop talking about it. Two years ago, I almost lost my mother. I didn't lose her, I ALMOST lost her... and I was telling anyone who would listen about the whole thing. Talking about it is a way of grieving, and people also need to realize this is American Idol - it features REAL people, not trained celebrities who know how to deal with media and their image. Danny probably has absolutely no idea the extent of the hatred this is bringing on him... he's just speaking his heart. Ugh, this pains me that people are doing this to him. It makes me sick. sad.gif


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might I add it's irritating how people think he's using his wife's death to advance. Ummm the love of his life died recently rolleyes.gif what do they expect? Get over it in a week or so? i can't imagine if I lost someone I love, it'd prolly take me years to move on. I feel for Danny sad.gif


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GD is just awful people are saying he is using his wife death for votes. I think this season he's the most hated contestant. I hope he never reads IDF.


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that's why I hardly or ever go over in GD or read anything that is going against a contestant, even if they are a favorite of mine or not, and in this case, AGAIN, it involves one of my favorites. For goodness sakes, he lost the love of his life weeks before his audition....it's going to take a long time for that feeling to go away, trust me, I see it in my mom every single day. my father passed away three years ago, and she still talks about it and she still feels the pain VERY greatly...god, if I went on Idol and I talked about losing my father and stuff, I would probably be hounded for it too...no doubt...and I don't understand why that should count against someone, especially that Danny isn't bragging about it or going around saying to vote for me because I lost my wife and blah blah blah rolleyes.gif



sorry....had to get that out....stuff like this REALLY gets to me, especially when it involves a death of a very close family member (parents, loved ones, siblings, relatives, ect.)

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I'm not even gonna bother watching. I've had enough venting my frustrations.

Though unfortunately, unless Danny speaks up or if TPTB realizes what they're doing is causing backlash, I think it will only get worse. noexpression.gif blarg.gif crying.gif


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QUOTE(greeneyesxo @ Feb 21st 2009, 12:58 AM) *

Talking about it is a way of grieving, and people also need to realize this is American Idol - it features REAL people, not trained celebrities who know how to deal with media and their image. Danny probably has absolutely no idea the extent of the hatred this is bringing on him... he's just speaking his heart. Ugh, this pains me that people are doing this to him. It makes me sick. sad.gif


That's true, he said everything in the interview. "...And, yíknow, itís not that I throw it in peopleís faces, but I get asked about it all the time. It weighs on my mind a lot, though. Because IídĖyíknow, honestly, this is a sob story I donít want. But it is shaping my life. And itís causing hope for a lot of people and not only that, itís causing hope for my life." I sick of haters too. sad.gif


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