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post May 24th 2008, 9:10 PM
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Hello. First of all, This is not what you could call "Official". It's only what we, a group of dedicated vocal coaches and music majors (15 vocal coaches, 11 music majors), have been coming up with for the last 6 years. Only 2 of us watches American Idol.

Anyway it's a list of the top male and female vocalists based on their technicality, style and difficulty of what they have shown. Again, it's not something that you could say accurate nor I am telling everyone to agree with it. The story is that we add someone to the list every now and then and I think we have a pretty good extensive list since we started.

Im posting this hoping it might interest you what we thought about our Idol. If not, then this would be forgotten anyway so no harm done in sharing it right?

I've highlighted Americal Idol contestants

MALE
1 Steven Tyler (Aerosmith)
2 Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin)
3 Steve Perry (Journey)
4 John Hampson (Ninedays)
5 Roy Orbison
6 Tom Jones
7 Ian Gillan (Deep Purple)
8 Freddie Mercury (Queen)
9 Geoff Tate (Queensryche)
10 Stevie Wonder
11 Jackie Wilson
12 Josh Groban
13 Sam Cooke
14 Chris Cornell (Soundgarden, Temple Of The Dog)
15 Mike Patton (Faith No More, Mr. Bungle)
16 Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden)
17 Clyde McPhatter (Drifters, Dominoes)
18 Jeff Buckley
19 Brian Mcknight
20 Elvis Presley
21 Jon Bon Jovi (Bon Jovi)
22 Marvin Gaye
23 Curtis Mayfield
24 Tony Williams (Platters)
25 Roy Hamilton
26 Solomon Burke
27 Tim Buckley
28 Ronnie James Dio (Rainbow, Black Sabbath)
29 Robbie Williams
30 Roger Daltrey (The Who)
31 Al Green
32 David Archuleta (American Idol Finalist)
33 Rob Halford (Judas Priest)
34 Little Willie John
35 Smokey Robinson
36 Paul Rodgers (Free, Bad Company, Queen)
37 Roy Khan (Kamelot)
38 Little Richard
39 Sebastian Bach (Skid Row)
40 Paul McCartney (The Beatles, Wings)
41 Burton Cummings (The Guess Who)
42 Dennis DeYoung (Styx)
43 Dan McCafferty (Nazareth)
44 Michael Matijevic (Steelheart)
45 Brad Delp (Boston)
46 Sam Moore (Sam & Dave)
47 Bryan Adams
48 Wilson Pickett
49 Bill Medley (The Righteous Brothers)
50 Dan Hesseltine (Jars Of Clay)
51 Ben E. King (The Drifters)
52 Barry White
53 Luther Vandross
54 Van Morrison (Them)
55 Peter Cetera (Chicago)
56 Levi Stubbs (Four Tops)
57 Joe Cocker
58 Jason Mraz
59 Axl Rose (Guns N Roses)
60 Eddie Kendricks (The Temptations)
61 James Brown
62 Brian Wilson (Beach Boys)
63 Richard Manuel (The Band)
64 David Ruffin (The Temptations)
65 David Byron (Uriah Heep)
66 Philip Bailey (Earth, Wind & Fire)
67 Layne Staley (Alice In Chains, Mad Season)
68 Billy Joel
69 Lou Gramm (Foreigner)
70 David Bowie
71 Elton John
72 John Farnham (The Little River Band)
73 Jimmy Beaumont (The Skyliners)
74 Justin Hayward (Moody Blues)
75 Rod Stewart (The Jeff Beck Group)
76 Frankie Valli (The Four Seasons)
77 Glenn Hughes (Deep Purple)
78 Maynard James Keenan (Tool, Perfect Circle)
79 Jimi Jamison (Survivor)
80 Prince
81 Anwar Robinson (American Idol Finalist)
82 Cedric Bixler-Zavalla (At The Drive In, The Mars Volta)
83 Otis Redding
84 Eric Burdon (Animals, War)
85 Philip Anselmo (Pantera)
86 Greg Lake (ELP, King Crimson)
87 Jim Morrison (The Doors)
88 Dion (Dion and The Belmonts)
89 Meat Loaf
90 Klaus Meine (Scorpions)
91 Myles Kennedy (Alter Bridge, Mayfield 4)
92 Clay Aiken (American Idol Finalist)
93 John Fogerty (CCR)
94 Dennis Edwards (The Temptations)
95 Jack Bruce (Cream)
96 John Lennon (The Beatles)
97 Steve Marriott (Humble Pie)
98 Todd Rundgren
99 Del Shannon
100 Kenneth Brian Edmond (Babyface)

FEMALE
1 Aretha Franklin
2 Etta James
3 Ruth Brown
4 Mariah Carey
5 Patti Labelle
6 Ann Wilson (Heart)
7 Chaka Khan (Rufus)
8 Whitney Houston
9 Joni Mitchell
10 Gladys Knight
11 Dusty Springfield
12 Lavern Baker
13 Eva Cassiday
14 Annie Lennox
15 Janis Joplin
16 Stacey Anne Furgeson (Fergie)
17 Karen Carpenter (Carpenters)
18 Grace Slick
19 Mavis Staples
20 Stevie Nicks (Fleetwood Mac)
21 Pat Benatar
22 Irma Thomas
23 Roberta Flack
24 Joan Baez
25 Darlene Love
26 Emmylou Harris
27 Brenda Lee
28 Linda Ronstadt
29 Tina Turner
30 Carrie Underwood (American Idol Finalist)
31 Tori Amos
32 Anita Baker
33 Celine Dion
34 Esther Phillips
35 Martina Mcbride
36 Judy Collins
37 Donna Summer
38 Natalie Cole
39 Kate Bush
40 Christina Aguilera
41 Debbie Harry
42 Dionne Warwick
43 Carla Thomas
44 Sinead O'Connor
45 Martha Reeves ( Martha & the Vandellas )
46 Laura Nyro
47 Erykah Badu
48 Florence Ballard
49 Minnie Ripperton
50 Bjork
51 Sade
52 Linda Jones
53 Tracy Chapman
54 Bette Midler
55 Jackie DeShannon
56 Sarah McLachlan
57 Connie Francis
58 Chrissie Hynde (Pretenders)
59 Teena Marie
60 Cass Elliott (Mamas & Papas)
61 Norah Jones
62 Doris Troy
63 Cyndi Lauper
64 Betty Wright
65 Oleta Adams
66 Patti Smith
67 Lauryn Hill
68 Faye Adams
69 Sandy Denny
70 Nico
71 Bonnie Raitt
72 Doris Duke
73 Des'ree
74 Denise LaSalle
75 Rickie Lee Jones
76 Patti Austin
77 Erma Franklin
78 Joan Armatrading
79 Ronnie Spector (Ronettes)
80 Mary Wells
81 Ann Peebles
82 Brenda Holloway
83 Judy Craig (Chiffons)
84 Diana Ross (Supremes)
85 Avril Lavigne
86 Arlene Smith (Chantels)
87 Ani DiFranco
88 Jennifer Holiday
89 Melba Moore
90 Coco Lee
91 Kate Pierson
92 Gloria Estefan
93 Jean Terelle (The Supremes)
94 Toni Braxton
95 Shirley Manson (Garbage)
96 Petula Clark
97 Alanis Morrisette
98 Mary J. Blige
99 Dolores O'riordan (The Cranberries)
100 Melissa Etheridge


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post May 24th 2008, 9:14 PM
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Wow......their isn't a lot of idol contestants on there. And some of the winners are no where to be seen. I think it's telling of Archie's talent to have him placed so high with such great names. And to make it better, these people are musically intelligent but objective. happy.gif


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post May 24th 2008, 9:16 PM
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spaz.gif Awesome! 32 out of 100, that ain't bad. stud.gif Thanks for sharing!


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post May 24th 2008, 9:18 PM
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Wow, that speaks volumes of Archie's talent. Thanks for posting this!


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QUOTE(StarrySky892 @ May 24th 2008, 10:16 PM) *

spaz.gif Awesome! 32 out of 100, that ain't bad. stud.gif Thanks for sharing!


Especially considering all the famous big names in it. happy.gif

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post May 24th 2008, 9:18 PM
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Steven Tyler? I know nothing about singing. Fact.

I'd ask how do you rank them, but I'd probably not understand, at least, not in a practical away (theory is over the webs).

Interesting Carrie is the only one there.

And Archie, well, worst case scenario, his voice is witchcraft.

ETA: Could at least you say what was most impressive about David and the other AI contestants, for you people?

ETA2: What's up with this IM like post?!

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Wow that's cool to hear. Thanks for posting! flowers.gif


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post May 24th 2008, 9:21 PM
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Wow, this is impressive shocked.gif. You are a true musical savvy w00t.gif . I'll go look for these artists' songs yes.gif - many of them I'm not familiar with original.gif.

Btw, can I ask why Kelly Clarkson isn't in there? I see Carrie!


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post May 24th 2008, 9:21 PM
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Very cool! I wonder how they would stack up with both genders mixed. I'm curious who would place higher, David or Carrie.

He is above so many respected artists! And at 17! When tons of these people are seasoned performers!


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post May 24th 2008, 9:25 PM
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QUOTE(McPheeverish @ May 24th 2008, 10:18 PM) *

Especially considering all the famous big names in it. happy.gif

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Seriously. Steven Tyler, Freddie Mercury? Wow.


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post May 24th 2008, 9:27 PM
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Look at the bottom of this forum I just saw... MasterClassLady is viewing it w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif (that's her username too)!

I wish she would post here!!!! w00twave.gif w00twave.gif w00twave.gif


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post May 24th 2008, 9:29 PM
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Freddie Mercury is personally my favorite male vocalist of all time, so to have Archie be mentioned in the same breath is astonishing and a huge honor.


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QUOTE(prettyorchid @ May 24th 2008, 11:27 PM) *

Look at the bottom of this forum I just saw... MasterClassLady is viewing it w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif (that's her username too)!

I wish she would post here!!!! w00twave.gif w00twave.gif w00twave.gif


I'd like to see her here. She seems to have really grown fond of Archie - watching interviews videos and stuff. Lol.

But she'd probably miss this thread because of the title...


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I find it interesting that Melinda isn't even on there. She has been called the best singer to ever be on AI, so it makes me wonder why she isn't on this list. Also, Kelly. But I do think there must be legitimate reasons. I'm just curious what they are.

And it's funny to see no other AI7 finalists! And people say David isn't the best singer this year! Hell, this list is suggesting he is one of the best, or even THE best, EVER on this show!

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QUOTE(butterflygirl87 @ May 24th 2008, 10:31 PM) *

I find it interesting that Melinda isn't even on there. She has been called the best singer to ever be on AI, so it makes me wonder why she isn't on this list. Also, Kelly. But I do think there must be legitimate reasons. I'm just curious what they are.

And it's funny to see no other AI7 finalists! And people say David isn't the best singer this year! Hell, this list is suggesting he is one of the best, or even THE best!


I think it also helps his voice is VERY distinct. It has such a magical soft quality too it. Amazing. happy.gif


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QUOTE(tireswing @ May 24th 2008, 10:29 PM) *

Freddie Mercury is personally my favorite male vocalist of all time, so to have Archie be mentioned in the same breath is astonishing and a huge honor.

Word. I'm not one of those huge classic rock fans (though I love it) but I always thought Freddie Mercury was AMAZING.

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QUOTE(StarrySky892 @ May 24th 2008, 10:32 PM) *

Word. I'm not one of those huge classic rock fans (though I love it) but I always thought Freddie Mercury was AMAZING.


He is so amazing. I'm not a rock fan at all, but I saw a live performance on youtube and was omg.gif. He's amaaazing.


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QUOTE(butterflygirl87 @ May 24th 2008, 10:31 PM) *

I find it interesting that Melinda isn't even on there. She has been called the best singer to ever be on AI, so it makes me wonder why she isn't on this list. Also, Kelly. But I do think there must be legitimate reasons. I'm just curious what they are.

And it's funny to see no other AI7 finalists! And people say David isn't the best singer this year! Hell, this list is suggesting he is one of the best, or even THE best, EVER on this show!

I am quite surprised Melinda isn't on there, either. To me, she has far better vocal technique than Carrie although Carrie is great, too.


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QUOTE(StarrySky892 @ May 24th 2008, 9:32 PM) *

Word. I'm not one of those huge classic rock fans (though I love it) but I always thought Freddie Mercury was AMAZING.

QUOTE(McPheeverish @ May 24th 2008, 9:35 PM) *

He is so amazing. I'm not a rock fan at all, but I saw a live performance on youtube and was omg.gif. He's amaaazing.

You guys rock at life. Freddie is so much more than a rock singer, he's a classically trained opera singer and he has an AMAZING voice. Listen to Somebody To Love, or Bohemian Rhapsody, or pretty much any other Queen song. Seriously, such a talented singer.


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