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> ~~Official~~ BTIKM Radio Thread, Adds/Spins/Stats/Etc.
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post Dec 19th 2011, 2:02 PM
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This thread is for all your radio needs. Post adds, spin updates, any questions about how radio works, etc., etc. sorcerer.gif

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post Dec 19th 2011, 2:04 PM
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RADIO FAQs

*This is a work in progress*

Key Terms:

Spins
A spin on the Mediabase chart is essentially a play by a monitored station. The spin count that we see on the Mediabase charts each day are a compilation of the spins from all of the Monitored CHR stations on the panel over the course of the previous seven days.

Bullet
A bullet is a positive increase in spins over the course of a week. For example, if a song that has 1200 spins on a Monday had 1000 spins on the previous Monday, its bullet would be 200. If a song is losing spins, we say that it has “lost its bullet.” There is no such thing as a negative bullet, so if a song has a bullet it is moving up the chart.

Adds
A station will officially “add” a song in Mediabase when they decide to start playing it regularly. Essentially, the more adds a song gets, the more spins it is likely to receive. In a typical week, a higher amount of adds means better spin updates due to the fact that more new stations are spinning the song. In Hot AC, the adds deadline for stations is Monday at 3 PM PST, while the adds deadline for Top 40 is Tuesday at 3 PM PST. Although stations can report their adds whenever they choose, most stations report on the adds day or the business day previous. There are two types of adders, manual and auto.
-Manual Adders are stations that generally add a song before playing it, or have only played it in a limited capacity (test spins, syndicated spins, etc.) prior to adding. Manual adds usually (but not always) are reported prior to a station adding the song to their regular playlist.

-Auto-Adds occur when a station decides to report only songs that they have already begun to play regularly. In Top 40, a song must have 7 spins from an auto adder in the previous week in order to receive an auto-add. Note that not every station that has spun a song 7 times in the week previous will necessarily add it; some are manual adders that have yet to add because they are unsure about the song and/or don’t want to acknowledge they’ve actually been playing it.

The Add Date (or Impact Date) is the date that a record label will begin encouraging stations to play a song. Basically, it's the date that a big push will happen to get stations to add the song. Stations are free to play or add the song before this date, however. A song can chart before the add date.

Recurrents
A recurrent song is removed from the chart after a certain period of time if it is no longer receiving positive updates and is below a certain number. On the CHR chart, a song is classified as “recurrent” when it has been in the Top 40 for 20 or more weeks and is outside of the Top 15. The length of time and/or the position for recurrency varies from chart to chart. The main purpose of removing recurrents is to make room on the chart for songs that are up and coming, rather than clogging the chart with songs that have been hanging around for a long time. Recurrents are removed on Sunday afternoons, regardless of what day of the week they fall below 15.

Purges
A song is purged if it has been on the chart for less than 20 weeks and falls below 40 without a bullet. Like recurrency, songs are purged in order to make room for new songs below them. A song will not be purged if it still has its bullet, even if it was inside the Top 40 for the published chart in Week 1 and fell out of the Top 40 in week 2, because it still has potential to rise on the chart. If a song peaks below number 40, it will not be purged even with the loss of its bullet.

Audience Impression
Audience Impression measures the estimated number of people that the song has reached. The AI number we receive from All-Access is measured in millions and like the other data on the chart, covers a weeklong period. So if a song has an AI of 21.59 on a given day means that approximately 21,590,000 people heard the song over the span of the past seven days. Different stations obviously have different AI’s, with larger markets having more listeners than smaller markets. In addition to this, the AI a song gains from each spin depends not only on the station but the time of day. AI does not contribute to the rankings on the Mediabase charts, which are determined by spins, but is important for sales and also contributes to the radio portion of the formula that determines the Billboard Hot 100.

Rolling Chart vs. Published Chart
The Rolling Chart is the daily chart where we get our daily updates. The Published Chart is the Sunday afternoon chart. This is where the official peaks come from and thus what radio stations look at when considering chart position for adds.

Syndicated Spins
A syndicated spins is a spin from a program that is played on a significant number of monitored stations. (i.e. Open House Party)



Formats

Contemporary Hit Radio (CHR) is the same as Top 40 or Pop. It's the format with the biggest audience and is also the fastest moving format (as far as we're concerned, at least). Plays a variety of songs that are straight up pop, more rhythmic leaning stuff, so country influenced pop, etc., depending on the station. Targets audience is preteen-twenties, or there about.

Hot Adult Contemporary (HAC) is a smaller format than CHR, but still has decent AI numbers and can impact sales, so it's still important. The audience for HAC is older than the audience for Pop (although I'm 21 and generally prefer HAC, so there you go), plays a lot of the same type of music as Pop without the most rhythmic stuff (generally there is little to no rap to be found on HAC) and is more likely to play ballads or what would be classified as "light" rock than CHR. It's also a slower moving format than CHR, and anything that goes to the top 5 on CHR is all but guaranteed Top 5 on HAC unless it's straight up rap. There's a LOT of crossover between these charts.

As a point of reference, WWFM went to #12 on CHR and #2 on HAC (where it stayed for a long while) and IIHY went to #16 on Pop and #15 (I think) on HAC. BTIKM is definitely HAC leaning (I think with a push it should go top 10 and maybe higher there without a problem), but it has a strong Pop beat and fits in well with what's currently being played there, so I have positive feelings about it doing well there as well.

There's also Adult Contemporary (AC), which moves as slow as molasses and plays a mix of classic rock/light rock/HAC type stuff (WWFM did well there, IIHY didn't do a whole lot, probably because it was too fast for the format), and generally what does well on HAC eventually does pretty well on AC as well, but the degree varies on the songs. BTIKM will probably get some play there, but probably not like WWFM did, and it's not as important as the other two formats anyway.

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post Dec 19th 2011, 2:06 PM
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Some More FAQs!

What do the numbers in a daily update mean?

The daily update on HAC for February 25 was:

31 29 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know Myself 589 514 75 2.428
+41 spins
+38 bullet
+.115 AI

Here's what the numbers in the top line mean:
31=Last week's position

29=Current position

289=Current spin count (for last seven days)

514=Last week's spin count

75=Bullet (Change in spins)

2.428=AI in millions

So then what do the numbers with the +'s mean, you ask?
The +41 spins means that the songs was played 41 times more in the previous day (in this case, Friday 2/24) than on the day that was dropped from the spin count (in this case, Friday 2/17). This is how I think of it:

The formula for Friday 2/24's spin count would be:
Friday 2/17 + Saturday 2/18 + Sunday 2/19 + Monday 2/20 + Tuesday 2/21 + Wednesday 2/22 + Thursday 2/23, i.e. the seven days previous to the day of the chart.

Saturday 2/25's formula would then drop Friday 2/17 and add Friday 2/24 while keeping all of the spins from the days in between, so the change in spins is really just the difference between the number of spins on the two Fridays.

The +38 means the increase in the bullet, i.e. the difference in the amount of spins gained this week as compared to last. In this case, the spincrease reported on Saturday 2/25 was +41, while the spincrease on the previous Saturday was +3, hence the +38 bullet. A good way to think about change in bullet is as momentum. If the bullet is increasing, that means the song is gaining spins faster than it was the previous week. If the bullet is decreasing, it doesn't necessarily mean a song is losing spins (although it could be), it might just have slowed down a little bit.

The explanation for the change in AI is basically equivalent to the one for change in spins, so I'm not going to elaborate unless someone specifically requests it. flowers.gif



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Some Handy Links

Add Board:
Main Menu: http://addboard.mediabase.com/menu.asp
BTIKM Adds (Current Week): http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddDetails.asp?sngcde=LAMBBTIK
BTIKM Adds History: http://addboard.mediabase.com/SongAddHisto...1&format=XX

Mediabase Charts:
CHR: http://mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/ch...ear=y&dpt=n
HAC: http://mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/ch...ear=y&dpt=n
AC: http://mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/ch...ear=y&dpt=n

Pulse Thread for CHR below top 50: http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?...mp;thread=90650
Kworb's Radio Site: http://kworb.net/radio/

All-Access: (You need to sign up for a free account)
Top Spinners on CHR: http://www.allaccess.com/mediabase/q/repor...BBTIK/format/H1
Top Spinners on HAC: http://www.allaccess.com/mediabase/q/repor...BBTIK/format/A2

Request Information:
Check out indybeck71's thread here: http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=673917
And her site RequestAdam here: http://requestadamlambert.com/

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OOOPS! I didn't read your post. OK, guys... Have at it!


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I'm posting part of a radio FAQ in one of the reserved posts that I wrote way back when (IIHY era I guess?) but never finished. I'll add to it later tonight/tomorrow, so if you have any specific suggestions/requests for it, let me know and I'll answer what I can. flowers.gif


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I edited your thread title so it's easier to find when doing a sort. All the "Official" threads have the same format.

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What does 'impacting' mean?


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QUOTE(madamimadam @ Dec 19th 2011, 3:04 PM) *

I edited your thread title so it's easier to find when doing a sort. All the "Official" threads have the same format.

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What does 'impacting' mean?


Okay!

"Impacting" means that 1/30 will be the official adds date, i.e. when RCA starts pushing radio stations to play/add it.

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Irich: Will we be able to see the 'spins' from today in the charts? Or only after it is 'officiallly' released?


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QUOTE(lrich637 @ Dec 19th 2011, 3:14 PM) *

Okay!

"Impacting" means that 1/30 will be the official adds date, i.e. when RCA starts pushing radio stations to play/add it.


But can radio stations 'add' before the official adds date?


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QUOTE(madamimadam @ Dec 19th 2011, 4:25 PM) *

But can radio stations 'add' before the official adds date?

Yes. The adds date is just when the label really starts pushing it

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QUOTE(Crazyadamfan09 @ Dec 19th 2011, 3:27 PM) *

Yes. The adds date is just when the label really starts pushing it



Thanks! And what about spins? Will we see today's spins on a chart tomorrow?


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QUOTE(madamimadam @ Dec 19th 2011, 3:15 PM) *

Irich: Will we be able to see the 'spins' from today in the charts? Or only after it is 'officiallly' released?


We'll be able to see them once it hits top 50 on the official charts. Sometimes people with access post the CHR chart below 50 on Pulse, so if that happens tomorrow, we'll be able to know how many spins he got on CHR. Only the top 50 is public, though.

Links to charts:

CHR: http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradi...ear=y&dpt=n

HAC: http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradi...ear=y&dpt=n

(You can also find these on All-Access, but you need to set up a free account on there.)

I'm guessing there's not going to be too many spins until after the New Year (because of Christmas tunes this week and year end countdowns next week), but we'll see.


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QUOTE(lrich637 @ Dec 19th 2011, 3:33 PM) *

We'll be able to see them once it hits top 50 on the official charts. Sometimes people with access post the CHR chart below 50 on Pulse, so if that happens tomorrow, we'll be able to know how many spins he got on CHR. Only the top 50 is public, though.

Links to charts:

CHR: http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradi...ear=y&dpt=n

HAC: http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradi...ear=y&dpt=n

(You can also find these on All-Access, but you need to set up a free account on there.)

I'm guessing there's not going to be too many spins until after the New Year (because of Christmas tunes this week and year end countdowns next week), but we'll see.



Thanks! I feel so much better now that you're here to guide through all this stuff.


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I saw on twitter that it was just played on the radio, and is going to be played on a station in Ohio today?


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So who's going to volunteer to keep an eye on the iTunes ratings?


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So who's going to volunteer to keep an eye on the iTunes ratings?


I can't give you popularity bars but here's a link of the top 1000:

feed://ax.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=143441/limit=0000/rss.xml


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I can't give you popularity bars but here's a link of the top 1000:

feed://ax.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=143441/limit=0000/rss.xml



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