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post May 11th 2015, 7:52 PM
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Bull- censored.gif . What if Brady had no hand in the deflation of the footballs? He probably knew, yes, but there is a chance that he didn't know. The way the Wells Report was worded, there is just too much doubt in my mind to warrant a suspension... wacko.gif


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post May 11th 2015, 8:53 PM
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I think Mr. Goodell has himself painted into a corner, any misconduct these days will be met with punishment, even if there isn't definite proof. That's a result of his past action and inaction, and I guess is unfortunate.

I do believe Tom had some say in ball pressure, and definitely had the "deflator" to remove air after the inspection (when they're forbidden to be altered), however I don't believe it was Tom's intent to have the balls below regulation. Of course, the only people who know the whole truth are the equipment staff, and we'll probably never know what really happened, and who's hand (if any hands) were in the honey pot.

Patriots probably go 2-2 during the 4 game suspension, Brady comes back with a vengeance, and finishes 12-4 and wins the east. No real surprise there. I don't think this changed anything, season wise (whether those draft picks hurt next year though remains to be seen). I also don't think this hurts the superbowl win, or his image. Brady won 3 superbowls without this mess, and would have won the 4th regardless of ball pressure in the AFC championship game.


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post May 11th 2015, 9:34 PM
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wow 4 games with not much evidence, that report was a mess. yet when Ray Rice abused his girlfriend he was only going to get 2 games at first??


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According to CBS Sports, Brady is planning to appeal.

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QUOTE(ButterflyEffect @ May 11th 2015, 9:53 PM) *

I think Mr. Goodell has himself painted into a corner, any misconduct these days will be met with punishment, even if there isn't definite proof. That's a result of his past action and inaction, and I guess is unfortunate.

I do believe Tom had some say in ball pressure, and definitely had the "deflator" to remove air after the inspection (when they're forbidden to be altered), however I don't believe it was Tom's intent to have the balls below regulation. Of course, the only people who know the whole truth are the equipment staff, and we'll probably never know what really happened, and who's hand (if any hands) were in the honey pot.

Patriots probably go 2-2 during the 4 game suspension, Brady comes back with a vengeance, and finishes 12-4 and wins the east. No real surprise there. I don't think this changed anything, season wise (whether those draft picks hurt next year though remains to be seen). I also don't think this hurts the superbowl win, or his image. Brady won 3 superbowls without this mess, and would have won the 4th regardless of ball pressure in the AFC championship game.


I agree. I think even if there's not definite proof this report coming out to the public & Mr. Goodell's handling of situations in the past they were definitely going to punish Brady, the Patriots equipment handlers, etc. I'm not surprised Brady was suspended. I did think because of the "outcry" it would be about 4 games. I am surprised how much the team was punished.

If the suspension holds, I do think the Patriots backup QB, Garoppolo is ok. The 1st 4 games for the Patriots are Steelers, Bills, Jaguars, & Cowboys. I could see them winning 2 games, but I'm not sure enough to make a prediction.

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post May 11th 2015, 10:44 PM
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Not sure why he is playing vs the Colts or Jets, two teams he either cheated against or tried to.


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post May 12th 2015, 8:10 AM
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^ They got punished for spygate that was the past. This is different, the report for deflategate was a mess. I think Brady will win the appeal.

they had the Colts game won anyway they scored more in the 2nd half, so they earned their Superbowl win.

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Odell Beckham, Jr. omg.gif I legitimately thought it was going to be Gronk on the cover. His consoation prize: He doesn't have to worry about the Madden Curse. laughing.gif

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Good job, OBJ! I know you play for....uhh...that team ( wink.gif ) but I like you, kid. Now, go BREAK THAT CURSE laughing.gif


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QUOTE(Smoochy @ Apr 15th 2015, 11:16 AM) *

Aaron Hernandez officially found guilty of 1st Degree Murder.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernand...C5VaiUA088nnIlQ


So sad.. He had so much talent and he wasted it. What a dick. sad.gif

QUOTE(ShortstopVM @ May 11th 2015, 8:52 PM) *

Bull- censored.gif . What if Brady had no hand in the deflation of the footballs? He probably knew, yes, but there is a chance that he didn't know. The way the Wells Report was worded, there is just too much doubt in my mind to warrant a suspension... wacko.gif


Yeah I'm still pissed tbh. I honestly don't think Brady knew anything until maybe after the fact. This whole mess is ridiculous and to make a bigger deal out of this than domestic abuse and murder and rape is sickening.

Funny thing is even if they did deflate balls, they scored more during the second half using normal balls and they won that game in a freaking BLOWOUT. rolleyes.gif

Their first game with Brady back is against the Colts and I hope we fcking CRUSH them! :!:

QUOTE(bswanson @ May 11th 2015, 10:34 PM) *

wow 4 games with not much evidence, that report was a mess. yet when Ray Rice abused his girlfriend he was only going to get 2 games at first??

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this website is alive again? wow.

So, things keep getting worse for the 49ers. They'll probably be drafting in the top 10 next season.


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QUOTE(Niki @ Jun 7th 2015, 8:18 PM) *

So sad.. He had so much talent and he wasted it. What a dick. sad.gif
Yeah I'm still pissed tbh. I honestly don't think Brady knew anything until maybe after the fact. This whole mess is ridiculous and to make a bigger deal out of this than domestic abuse and murder and rape is sickening.

Funny thing is even if they did deflate balls, they scored more during the second half using normal balls and they won that game in a freaking BLOWOUT. rolleyes.gif

Their first game with Brady back is against the Colts and I hope we fcking CRUSH them! :!:
Exactly!!!

Exactly. they played better in 2nd half. and other QBs from the past like Favre defended thje Pats and just read Joe Montana een said no big deal and they even did stuff back then to the balls.
and how fair is it that Goodell is doing the appeal. it should be done by a nuteral party, cause I doubt Goodell is going to be neutral. With his past screw ups with players last season, hes trying to make an example out of Brady. So no matter how much he appeals, Goodell wont do anything.

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So, there were fans lined up outside of the NFL office to support Tom Brady for his appeal hearing... omg.gif


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I can imagine the hearing going either way. It should be obvious to Goodell that four games was excessive, but I don't think he'd be willing to offer total exoneration (which is reportedly was Brady wants) and explain to the other 31 owners that that he blew $5 million of their money on an investigation that found nothing.


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