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post Apr 7th 2012, 3:27 PM
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QUOTE(Stormiya @ Apr 6th 2012, 10:21 PM) *

ooooh that changes everything rolleyes.gif

The negative Nancys of this thread are really irritating me.

No, it doesn't change the facts of the case. Just shows the bias of the network.


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post Apr 7th 2012, 3:52 PM
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they may have shortened it, but it still doesn't explain why Zimmerman went after Trayvon in the first place. What was he doing that was so suspicious?? Oh and some of the media has the nerve to say dont jump to conclusions cause of the Duke Lacrosse thing where everyone accused the guy of rape and found out the girl lied. That is different. Shouldn't Zimmerman have asked him first, what he was doing if he was so concerned? Also he was told buy the police, not to pursue Trayvon. He should be in jail based on that. he kept going after him after he was told not to.


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post Apr 7th 2012, 4:45 PM
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QUOTE(bswanson @ Apr 7th 2012, 4:52 PM) *

they may have shortened it, but it still doesn't explain why Zimmerman went after Trayvon in the first place. What was he doing that was so suspicious?? Oh and some of the media has the nerve to say dont jump to conclusions cause of the Duke Lacrosse thing where everyone accused the guy of rape and found out the girl lied. That is different. Shouldn't Zimmerman have asked him first, what he was doing if he was so concerned? Also he was told buy the police, not to pursue Trayvon. He should be in jail based on that. he kept going after him after he was told not to.

There's no question that's true. yes.gif


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post Apr 7th 2012, 5:01 PM
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Meaning the outrage is justified ermm.gif


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post Apr 7th 2012, 6:35 PM
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QUOTE(Drew @ Apr 7th 2012, 3:27 PM) *

No, it doesn't change the facts of the case. Just shows the bias of the network.

Drew, I understand what you're trying to say. Like I've stated before, I am a Communications major. My concentration is in PR, but I've had several journalism and broadcasting classes as well. The media isn't supposed to edit things in a way that deliberately sway the public-and that station did so unconsciouly or not-it's still not ethically correct. It is frustrating me how it is being handled. I am very saddened and disgusted over Zimmerman not being arrested, but the media sure isn't doing EITHER party any favors. They need to lay off for a while until they get concrete facts. Although, I'm just as guilty because I am following it. fear.gif


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post Apr 7th 2012, 6:47 PM
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QUOTE(*Laci @ Apr 7th 2012, 7:35 PM) *

Drew, I understand what you're trying to say. Like I've stated before, I am a Communications major. My concentration is in PR, but I've had several journalism and broadcasting classes as well. The media isn't supposed to edit things in a way that deliberately sway the public-and that station did so unconsciouly or not-it's still not ethically correct. It is frustrating me how it is being handled. I am very saddened and disgusted over Zimmerman not being arrested, but the media sure isn't doing EITHER party any favors. They need to lay off for a while until they get concrete facts. Although, I'm just as guilty because I am following it. fear.gif

yes.gif That's all I've been saying, not that I believe Zimmerman is innocent, just that the media was desperate to convict him before any facts had really come out.


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post Apr 7th 2012, 7:45 PM
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QUOTE(Drew @ Apr 7th 2012, 3:59 PM) *

I'm point out the complete bias of the national media on this issue. I'm not saying you're not correct, they just wanted it to be that way from the start.

That's not what I was saying at all, but leave it to you. They knew what they were doing. You really think it was an innocent mistake?


I'm not saying it was an innocent mistake. I'm just saying that it means nothing in the whole scope of things.... it doesn't change anything. Whether his intent to kill Trayvon was because he was black, or because he was wearing a hoodie, or because he looked shifty, or whatever it was... it was unfounded, he was told not to pursue Trayvon, and he did anyways, and murdered him. End of discussion.

QUOTE(Drew @ Apr 7th 2012, 7:47 PM) *

yes.gif That's all I've been saying, not that I believe Zimmerman is innocent, just that the media was desperate to convict him before any facts had really come out.


But even if they originally aired the entire clip, it wouldn't have changed public perception on the fact that he should have been arrested. ermm.gif


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post Apr 10th 2012, 1:04 PM
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Lolz Zimmerman's website.

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2012/04/1...ml?cid=facebook

What a piece of work.


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post Apr 10th 2012, 9:06 PM
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QUOTE(Stormiya @ Apr 10th 2012, 2:04 PM) *

Lolz Zimmerman's website.

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2012/04/1...ml?cid=facebook

What a piece of work.

I'll give him a pass on maybe not knowing that those things were specifically written on black buildings and by that crazy Pastor. However, lol@celebrating "long live" type of sh*t. It's like boasting about what he did. Who feels that way? Even if you have to kill someone, I don't think you'd be prideful about it. It's a tragedy all around.

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post Apr 11th 2012, 5:02 PM
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Its about time, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder. even if Trayvon fought him he had every right to under stand your ground. Zimmerman was following him for no reason, after he was told to stop. I mean its not like Trayvon was looking to break into a house or car, he was walking home. what right did Zimmerman have to follow him. Was Zimmermans life in danger, no? Trayvon never went after him, he was standing on the sidewalk in the rain going home. The arrest should have been made right away.


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post Apr 13th 2012, 9:29 PM
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People identify with Zimmerman because he's still around to look like a victim.

Lost in all of this is the parents' pain. Here is Trayvon's dad talking about finding out that he was dead, and Trayvon's mom talking about all of the dreams he'll never be able to pursue now, and what she misses about him:





I wish I could find the clip of his mother talking about finding out about his death, though. It was heart-wrenching. She got the call at work that he was missing, so she left work, and then got the call in the parking lot that he was dead. I can't even imagine...


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post Apr 15th 2012, 1:57 PM
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QUOTE(Drew @ Apr 7th 2012, 7:47 PM) *

yes.gif That's all I've been saying, not that I believe Zimmerman is innocent, just that the media was desperate to convict him before any facts had really come out.


I understand your point, Drew, and I've always understood it. thumbsup.gif Where I disagree is that there's a REASON the media is desperate to convict him - the facts WERE and ARE out! The facts show that a black boy is dead for doing absolutely nothing wrong and the killer hasn't even been arrested! thumbdown.gif Of course the media will side with the victim! wacko.gif

QUOTE(bswanson @ Apr 11th 2012, 6:02 PM) *

Its about time, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder. even if Trayvon fought him he had every right to under stand your ground. Zimmerman was following him for no reason, after he was told to stop. I mean its not like Trayvon was looking to break into a house or car, he was walking home. what right did Zimmerman have to follow him. Was Zimmermans life in danger, no? Trayvon never went after him, he was standing on the sidewalk in the rain going home. The arrest should have been made right away.


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I'm confused as to where this story is going. Zimmerman was arrested but just granted bail and released? Is he going to be tried in court? Clearly, I understand nothing about the legal system. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(malfunctiones @ Apr 21st 2012, 3:48 AM) *

I'm confused as to where this story is going. Zimmerman was arrested but just granted bail and released? Is he going to be tried in court? Clearly, I understand nothing about the legal system. tongue.gif


So bail means that you've paid the bond of [however much the court set] and therefore that's supposed to "guarantee" that you will show up to court and be tried. So yes... he is supposed to still be tried in court. Theoretically, if you or someone you know doesn't have the funds to pay the bond (or, levy an asset like a house against the bond I think is also an option) then you would be stuck in jail. Depending on the crime/circumstances, you can also be held without bail.


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And now Zimmerman is back in jail,. this time t here is proof he did something illegal. Apparently he was not aware that hi conversation with hi wife while he was in jail would be recorded. Who doesn't know that?

Apparently he lost his passport a few years ago, got a new one , then found the old one. When asked to turn in his passport, he turned in the old one which had expired and kept the latest one with a later expiration date. He also knew about the amount that was raised from the web site and knew he would have access to that money, so his plea of poverty at his bail hearing was perjury. This is a guy who can turn lemonade into lemons.


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QUOTE(poopooface @ Apr 20th 2012, 12:02 AM) *

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QUOTE(poopooface @ Apr 20th 2012, 12:02 AM) *

Is that a real hoody? I want it for my dog.


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